Yes, we did talked about this awhile back . I discussed this with Joe H. as well and the snafu occured in late 2008 for the first knives coming out for 2009 . Seems the date stamp had not arrived on time for the first production run and the decision was made to go ahead with production and send the first knives out unstamped . It was not tracked how many went out the doors with no stamp but I seem to remember Joe saying less than 1K of all the models and in Jan. he knew of the 110, 112 and 500 . Perhaps others some here found others, I stumbled onto a 112 . So, glad I have one . When Larry O. and I discussed this he wasn't considering them special . But to me their like a limited edition just not noted . DM