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Interesting. By their definition, it is considered a religious item, not a weapon. Using that logic, a Rastafarian's kid should be able to bring a bong to school. After all, it is a Rasta religious item, not drug paraphernalia, right? (LOL!!)
 
I've heard they're to be ziptied / peacebonded shut, so they cannot be taken out.
 
lol well i live in canada, i find that very funny, i carry a knife to school, but usually keep it in my pocket because were not supposed to have them. honestly, i rarely need a knife at school to begin with, but still like to have one on me/
 
T.O.M. said:
I've heard they're to be ziptied / peacebonded shut, so they cannot be taken out.
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That's part of it. It sounds like the school district made a common sense compromise. They allowed the Kirpan to be carried, but imposed several measures that make it impossible to use as a weapon.

http://www.freep.com/article/201102...nton-school-district-says-religious-dagger-OK
• Any kirpan worn at school should be sewn inside a sheath in such a way that the blade cannot be removed from the sheath.

• The blade of the kirpan is restricted to no more than 2 1/4 inches. This would take the object outside the scope of the Revised School Code's definition of a knife constituting a dangerous weapon.

• The blade of the kirpan must be dull.

• The kirpan should not be worn on the outside of the clothing and should not be visible in any way.
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some sikhs will wear something to symbollicly(sp?) represent a kirpan instead of an actual knife. rastafarians are not required to carry a bong after baptism/initiation.
 
Clang! said:
That's part of it. It sounds like the school district made a common sense compromise. They allowed the Kirpan to be carried, but imposed several measures that make it impossible to use as a weapon.
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Fun fact: Sikhs believe in following local law. According to their own proclamations, they should not be carrying Kirpan where they are prohibited, regardless of modifications made.
 
philwar said:
That sucks. It means evil will conquer without resistance.
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It is indeed sad considering the purpose of the Kirpan. How is the baptized Sikh to defend the oppressed if the Kirpan is sewn into a sheath or dulled beyond usability?
 
TOM1960 said:
Interesting. By their definition, it is considered a religious item, not a weapon. Using that logic, a Rastafarian's kid should be able to bring a bong to school. After all, it is a Rasta religious item, not drug paraphernalia, right? (LOL!!)
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There is no logic to this statement. Ridiculing something you clearly do not understand is not "logic" at all. A Kirpan is a religious instrument required to be carried by all Khalsa (baptized) Sikh. It is a symbolic instrument of Ahmisa, worn as an expression of their belief to prevent violence rather than stand by idly and watch evil be done to others.
 
They were allowed to take them on planes over here when other people had the nail clippers taken away.
Not sure if the rules have changed yet
Richard
 
i'm in the process of forming a new religion in which our required garb includes BDU's, boots, ski mask, fixed blade, and a handgun. our fundamental beliefs include resisting all forms of tyrany and defending individual liberty, at all costs. can i get an Amen? :D
 
zignal_zero said:
i'm in the process of forming a new religion in which our required garb includes BDU's, boots, ski mask, fixed blade, and a handgun. our fundamental beliefs include resisting all forms of tyrany and defending individual liberty, at all costs. can i get an Amen? :D
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One already exists.

http://www.threepercenter.org
 
So, Christmas trees are banned from schools because they "promote (Christian) religion", but knives are okay if you subscribe to a certain minority religion. That probably make perfect sense to the nitwits running the schools...

If you want to know where all of this is headed, I suggest reading The Grand Jihad by Andrew McCarthy
 
Chris Meyer said:
So, Christmas trees are banned from schools because they "promote (Christian) religion", but knives are okay if you subscribe to a certain minority religion. That probably make perfect sense to the nitwits running the schools...
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Christianity also doesn't require the display of a Christmas tree for its baptized members. Sikhism, however, does require the knife, or some representation thereof, to be worn by all baptized members (reasons in my earlier post.)

If you want to know where all of this is headed, I suggest reading The Grand Jihad by Andrew McCarthy
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Know what's cool? Reading. Facts, even. Sikhism is not Islam. Also, McCarthy is ridiculous. The "facts" he presents are just alarmist propaganda.
 
I didn't say that Christmas trees were required. The point was that the schools (and Governments) are only anti-religious when it comes to certain religions. I couldn't give a damn whether Sikhism requires adherents to carry a knife at all times. If it's illegal for one person to carry a knife to school, it's supposed to be illegal for all. Conversely, if they want to allow everyone to carry a knife to school, that's fine too.

Also, I never said Sikhism and Islam were the same. However, if you bothered to read McCarthy's book, you would learn that the end game of liberals and (in the case of the book) their Muslim Brotherhood allies is to undermine the United States so they can remake it the way they want. One of the Muslim Brotherhood's tactics is to insert their religious preferences bit by bit everywhere they can, with the end goal of institutionalizing Islam and forcing everyone to live under Sharia law. (Read the book for a fuller explanation.)

My point about inserting bits of Sikhism into our schools is that it leads to the same thing; undermining American society. I was not equating Sikhism with radical Islam.

As for the rest of your comments, I was the one who suggested reading a book, you are the one posting ignorant statements. By "alarmist propaganda" I guess you referring to the fact that McCarthy included numerous quotes by Islamists, telling what they intend to do to us.

I will have to assume that the only reading materials you consider proper (or "cool") are liberal talking points or such "great" works as the Communist Manifesto or Rules for Radicals. If you hate the USA so much, no one is keeping you here.
 
Please keep your stinky politics out of this sub-forum.
This thread doesn't even really deal with knife LAWS anyway.
If you want to whine about political nonsense, there's an entire sub-forum just for that.
This isn't it.
 
I think everyone has already gotten the "point" and now the discussion will continue to drift where it should not. Any more politics will lead to my closing the thread.

BTW, I got a silver "Life Knife" from Jot Singh Khalsa a few years ago, a small dagger on a necklace. I wonder if that would qualify as a kirpan or would it get me thrown out of court? :)
 
Chris Meyer said:
I couldn't give a damn whether Sikhism requires adherents to carry a knife at all times.
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Just shows your ignorance.

Also, I never said Sikhism and Islam were the same. However, if you bothered to read McCarthy's book, you would learn that the end game of liberals and (in the case of the book) their Muslim Brotherhood allies is to undermine the United States so they can remake it the way they want. One of the Muslim Brotherhood's tactics is to insert their religious preferences bit by bit everywhere they can, with the end goal of institutionalizing Islam and forcing everyone to live under Sharia law. (Read the book for a fuller explanation.)
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I have read his book. I have also read the Koran. Most of the "facts" he uses contradict the Koran. As an extremist himself, he uses only quotes from extremists on the opposite side.

My point about inserting bits of Sikhism into our schools is that it leads to the same thing; undermining American society. I was not equating Sikhism with radical Islam.
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1. I doubt you knew, until I posted, that Islam and Sikhism were not the same.

2. America was founded on religious tolerance and freedom. How does allowing this "undermine" that? Remember. America is not, and never was, a Christian nation.

As for the rest of your comments, I was the one who suggested reading a book, you are the one posting ignorant statements. By "alarmist propaganda" I guess you referring to the fact that McCarthy included numerous quotes by Islamists, telling what they intend to do to us.
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This book hardly qualifies as an unbiased, or factual, source for information. However, my comments regarding Sikhism are based on actual research.

I will have to assume that the only reading materials you consider proper (or "cool") are liberal talking points or such "great" works as the Communist Manifesto or Rules for Radicals. If you hate the USA so much, no one is keeping you here.
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How is someone promoting religious tolerance Communist or leftist? Take your ignorant political trash elsewhere.
 
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