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What the deal with Ontario RAT? did they rip off RC? old partners?

I'm sorry to bring up the issue of the two but just would like to know what the difference is and why

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Look back in the older posts. This subject has been done to death.

The biggest difference is that RC knives are made in USA, not all Ontario Rats can claim such national origin.
 
RAT (www.jungletraining.com) has been in business since 1997, training military, law enforcement, and civilians in the art of jungle survival. During our survival training ventures, we recognized the need for a better knife for our jungle school. Machete's were too thin and flexible and sheath knives were too small and lacked cutting efficiency. Our problem was solved when we designed the RTAK, a large sheath knife that offered the cutting efficiency of a machete with the hard work features of a sheath knife. We commissioned Newt Livesay of Wicked Knife Co. to build the first models of this knife. To our surprise, the RTAK became very popular and we soon had more orders than Newt had shop time.

In 2002 Randall's Adventure & Training (RAT) licensed Ontario Knife Co to build the RTAK on a 5-year contract term. During that time frame, RAT designed additional knives that were also built by Ontario. RAT also secured government NSN numbers on two of the designs.

After our Ontario contract ended in April, 2007, Randall's Adventure & Training decided to produce a higher quality line of knives outside of the mass production capabilities of Ontario. This decision was also spurred along by customers wanting upgrades to the existing line, that Ontario was not willing to invest in. The new RAT Cutlery line is considered "mid-tech" in the sense of quality and manufacturing procedures. This means you will notice upgrades to sheathing, fit, finish and detail on RAT Cutlery knives. Most important, RAT Cutlery is now in a position to respond quickly to new product development and upgrades to existing lines without the layers of corporate decisions and political correctness often found with large companies. All of our new knife designs will fit the bill of desirable field cutlery when it comes to toughness, comfort, and cutting efficiency.

Throughout our time in the cutlery industry, our philosophy has always been geared towards customer service and having our product perform to the user's expectations. Whether you're a one-time knife buyer or a purchasing manager for a large distributor, we want EVERY customer to have a satisfying experience - all the way from the initial order to the use of our knives. If you experience any problems, we want to know about it. We also appreciate any positive feedback you may have to offer. Feel free to contact us about any issue, negative or positive.
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From the site, Jeff and Mike used to get their designs produced through Ontario and now they don't. I've heard mixed things about Ontario, but have never used any of their knives so I can't personally say anything about the company. RAT Cutlery knives are good enough for me and if I have to pay a little more to get a quality product then so be it, plus the warranty is hard to beat.
 
This has been discussed here a thousand times.

BTW: All Ontario RAT fixed blade knives are made in the USA, just like RC. The only Ontario RAT not made in the USA is the folder. Ontario is a good company. They make a good knife. Nuff said on this subject.
 
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