What canidate is Pro-Us?

Just a question. Has anyone heard anything on which canidate is most likely to be for the bill of rights and our right to bear arms? (Knives, guns, sticks, rocks, etc...) I know that I am not voting for the democratic canidate... Gore... Bore? what was his name again?
 
Look into Alan Keyes. He's pro family, PRO-Second Amendment & PRO-Constitution, anti UN and WTO.

Supports right to bear arms for all types and uses of guns.

"The 2nd Amendment was not put into the Constitution by the Founders merely to allow us to intimidate burglars, or hunt rabbits to our hearts’ content. The Founders added the 2nd Amendment so that when, after a long
train of abuses, a government evinces a methodical design upon our natural
rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. That is why
the right to keep and bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights."
Source: www.keyes2000.org/issues/secondamendment.html 1/7/99 Jan 7, 1999

No bans on legal firearms; allow concealed carry

"Eliminate all bans and measures that restrict law-abiding citizens from owning
legally obtained firearms; Allow law-abiding citizens to carry a concealed firearm that is legally owned and registered."
Source: 1996 National Political Awareness Test, Project Vote Smart Jul 2, 1996

Sorry for the political discourse, but you asked.
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Chuck
 
This makes me think of that small southern town, in Georgia as I recall. The town passed an ordinance which required every household to have a gun. The crime rate went down.

The goal is get the weapons out of the hands of the criminals and into the hands of the good guys.

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I think Bush is the way to go. He asked for and signed a shall-issue CCW bill in Texas, and while it had a few slightly screwball clauses in it, it wasn't too bad. Under the TX system the Governor doesn't have a lot of input in the legislative process before actually signing. And he signed an "update package" that moderated some of the stupider original provisions.

That said, he'll need watching and guidance. He's most definately a "political animal", unfortunately. The faster we throw in support for him, the more of a voice we'll have.

McCain has made strongly anti-gun statements of late, and there's other reasons to worry. The one slightly bright hope is that in a recent policy statement, he claims to be in favor of a state's right to choose their CCW system without Fed interference...same as Bush. Bush definately means it; with McCain it's a crapshoot.

McCain is troubling in other areas too. Note how he's become the "media darling" among the GOPs lately.

Another thing: "campaign finance reform" sounds like a good thing, right? Except, by some interpretations, this single post in support of the Bushling
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could cause Spark and Mike to have to declare the costs of this ENTIRE site as a campaign contribution to Bush - and if they're over the limits, they could be fined into oblivion.

There's a proposal right now saying exactly this. I publish a pro-gun website myself; if the worst of these passes, I'd have to declare the entire costs of my computer, ISP bills and modem as a campaign contribution.

As nasty as political money is, it's a form of free speech. Think twice before supporting censorship.

Anyways. What we need the next president to do is:

#1) Hold the line on gun control Fed law. Rollbacks won't be practical, for the most part...just keep the Feds off of the state's backs and let them pass and maintain shall-issue.

#2) PRO-FREEDOM SUPREME COURT PICKS! We need to cram US vs. Emerson ALL THE WAY; that or a similar case is our best bet for large-scale advancement. This is the #1 area I don't trust McCain on, and I shudder to think what Gore would do.

Keyes and Buchanon are fine on gun rights, but they're anti-freedom in other areas. What we really need long-term is Jesse Ventura if he'll wake up after that nasty first year. He actually makes the best noises of any of 'em but so far he's been ineffective. Get somebody *smart* and politically savvy who's 100% pro-freedom across the board and we've got major fun.

The people behind Buchannon, Keyes plus the Libertarians need to get smart this year, go whole-hog behind Bush.

Jim
Equal Rights for CCW Home Page http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw
 
Jim,

I'm just curious what areas you think Keyes has displayed an anti-freedom bias. I know he has some very strong moral positions, but he ies far less likely to legislate solutions than Bush. If anything Keyes stands for less government and repressive laws. Bush is just another republicrate politician seeking to maintain the big government status-quo
 
Well this is the kind of info that I was looking for. If it is possible this election is making me more dissapointed in our political system than the last one. It seems a waste that there are so few choices in the political field it will be narrowed down to an either or situation. It seems such a waste that a third party candidate with the intrests of the people in mind has not emerged to save us, the gun/knife carrying voter from the bi-partisand freaks that are running rampant in the govt' today.
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Sorry about that. Was that a rant?

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Nothing says love quite like a sharp knife... Now if my wife only believed that.
 
I have an ugly feeling that this election no matter who wins we lose. I don't believe Bush. That smirk on his face tells me he's telling me what I want to hear not what he really thinks. As far as McCain's campaign reform, I don't know the exact ramifications but it seems that currently, big bucks overrides the public's votes anyway. No candidate so far has really moved me. One thing you have to give Buchanan is that he stands firm on the issues and whatever he says you know he means it.

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The only candidate that can beat Gore is Bush. I'm not wild about him, but he's the only one that can beat Gore.
 
Iceman, you don't think McCain could beat Gore? In debates I think he'd stand up better than Bush. I'm not looking to argue, I want someone good to vote for. I'm tired of settling for a candidate. That, to me, is throwing a vote away.
 
Jus think Uncle Bill if they made Kukhris illegal you could charge a lot more for them.
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Because I know that the Kukhri junkies would still need their fix.
 

!Bill Martino for Presedent! That way we know our personal freedoms would be protected. He could get a law passed that every politican and law enforcement officer in the U.S. buy a khukuri from him and carry it at all times!

- D

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Three of the four elements are shared by all creatures, but fire was a gift to humans alone. Smoking cigarettes is as intimate as we can become with fire without immeadiate excruciation. Every smoker is an embodiment of Prometheus, stealing fire from the gods and bringing it back home. We smoke to capture the power of the sun, to pacify Hell, to identify with the primordial spark, to feed on the marrow of the volcano. It's not the smoke we're after but the fire. When we smoke, we are performing a version of the fire dance, a ritual as ancient as lighting. The lung of a smoker is a naked virgin thrown as a sacrifice into the godfire.
 
The "other freedom issues" that Keyes and Buchannon fall short on are very divisive. Abortion and gay rights, for starters. No, I'm not gay but I don't like the idea of the state discriminating against any group on the basis of religion, and that's what's happening today. I also don't like the idea of abortion, but I like the idea of the state stepping in with clodhoppers on even worse.

If you're anti-abortion, fine, but remember: PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK. That's established fact. The only choice is between clinics today, or coathangers in a back alley under a "pro life" government.

I'm also in favor of switching the drug problem from the criminal justice system to the medical system. Again, prohibition doesn't work.

The last California major politico who was strongly in favor of locking up potheads, plus was anti-abortion and anti-gay was a guy name of Dan Lungren...and he was wildly, insanely anti-gun too, at a level best described as "brownshirt". Ventura has the best "live and let live" philosophy in the nation, but he also seems (so far) to be lacking as a leader. If that changes he'll make a damn fine prez.

Jim
 
Go to:

http://www.vote.com/

1) sign up;
2) tell them to tell your representatives how you voted;
3) bookmark it and visit it every day.

I only get email back from one senator, but the other one and my representative get sent my votes too.

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Back to Bush: the reason I do trust him is his PROVEN track record. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the highest levels of the NRA also trust him; I've spoken to the NRA's paid lobbyists in California on the issue.

He's not perfect, but he's our best hope.

WARNING: UNCONFIRMED RUMOR ALERT...

The following story was told to me by an attorney in Calif. specializing in gun rights issues.

It seems a certain dude who lives just outside of WashDC went to a gun shop to buy a rifle. An ordinary hunting-type rifle, mind you. The guy got turned down by the Fed background-check computer system because he put a PO Box in for his address.

So the guy storms out in a major huff.

His name was Clarence Thomas.

Dunno if it's true or not - but in any case, there's lots of reasons right now to try and take a gun case to the Supremes.

Jim
 
Remember the bumper sticker that said:

LIMIT POLITICIANS TO TWO TERMS.
ONE IN OFFICE AND ONE IN PRISON!

Also, the random thought crossed my mind while cooking dinner.

If military rifles are made to shoot the enemy, why are politicians so scared of us having them?

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