What do I have here? E.C. Simmons Keen Kutter Kon-Kave

[Mitchyd91]

Been a lurker on this forum for quiet some time. Been dabbling as well in collecting axes/hatchets etc. I have a helko werk blade from quiet a while back that I refurbished and but the leather guard on it as my go to user on the property. I recently came across and acquired this E.C. Simmons Keen Kutter Kon Kave. I am in the process of cleaning this up but I have been digging and digging but I cannot find any information on these other than 1 or 2 postings for sale. It seems the Keen Kutter is relatively rare but the Kon Kave is on the upper echelon of rarity but I have been wrong before! I would love some assistance/help from you guys who are more knowledgeable than I on historical information for this particular head.

Thanks gents!

I can't figure out how to add an image onto this thread so if there is assistance on that, I do have a photo.

 

[crbnSteeladdict]

Been a lurker on this forum for quiet some time. Been dabbling as well in collecting axes/hatchets etc. I have a helko werk blade from quiet a while back that I refurbished and but the leather guard on it as my go to user on the property. I recently came across and acquired this E.C. Simmons Keen Kutter Kon Kave. I am in the process of cleaning this up but I have been digging and digging but I cannot find any information on these other than 1 or 2 postings for sale. It seems the Keen Kutter is relatively rare but the Kon Kave is on the upper echelon of rarity but I have been wrong before! I would love some assistance/help from you guys who are more knowledgeable than I on historical information for this particular head.

Thanks gents!

I can't figure out how to add an image onto this thread so if there is assistance on that, I do have a photo.

Rebranded Kelly's Chip Slinger

 

[rjdankert]

I can't figure out how to add an image onto this thread so if there is assistance on that, I do have a photo.

Hope this will help:

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Bob

 

[Mitchyd91]

https://flic.kr/p/2o6WME2

Here is the link for the photo

 

[Mitchyd91]

Hope this will help:

How do I post pictures from a.....

Whatever kind of device you have? There may be an app for that. Look for a picture/file sharing host. Prefreably one that is NOT porn related. You can use imgur.com, flickr, or any others. There are tutorials online on the "How To" part, search for it. In the mean time, searching here for...

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Bob

It did, thank you. I posted the photo for reference

 

[rjdankert]

I have two E. C. Simmons catalogs (PDF) one from 1912 and one from 1939. I did not find a KON-KAVE axe listed in either.
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FWIW, some Kelly stuff:

1898 Patent by J. P. Kelly DESIGN FOR AN AX OR HATCHET
". . . the leading or material feature of my design consists in an ax or hatchet having a depression in each face thereof, said depression commencing a short distance above the bit or cutting edge thereof and extending from thence in a plane surface to the eye."

USD29680S - Design for an ax or hatchet - Google Patents

Kelly 1920s

Kelly 1938

A Comparison

Kelly axe posted here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/it-followed-me-home-part-2.1190276/page-191#post-17244476



Bob

 

[Mitchyd91]

Hope this will help:

How do I post pictures from a.....

Whatever kind of device you have? There may be an app for that. Look for a picture/file sharing host. Prefreably one that is NOT porn related. You can use imgur.com, flickr, or any others. There are tutorials online on the "How To" part, search for it. In the mean time, searching here for...

www.bladeforums.com

Bob

It did, thank you. I posted the photo for reference

I have two E. C. Simmons catalogs (PDF) one from 1912 and one from 1939. I did not find a KON-KAVE axe listed in either.
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FWIW, some Kelly stuff:

1898 Patent by J. P. Kelly DESIGN FOR AN AX OR HATCHET
". . . the leading or material feature of my design consists in an ax or hatchet having a depression in each face thereof, said depression commencing a short distance above the bit or cutting edge thereof and extending from thence in a plane surface to the eye."

USD29680S - Design for an ax or hatchet - Google Patents

Kelly 1920s

Kelly 1938

A Comparison

Kelly axe posted here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/it-followed-me-home-part-2.1190276/page-191#post-17244476



Bob

SO am I looking at a Kelly brand that someone stamped with Simmons? Or did Simmons basic buy the rights and sell it as a simmons?

 

[rjdankert]

SO am I looking at a Kelly brand that someone stamped with Simmons? Or did Simmons basic buy the rights and sell it as a simmons?

No implications intended. I believe Simmons sold axes with "depressed faces" branded KON-KAVE as I have seen others in pictures. Am only saying I could not find information/documentation to share as to when these were sold. The Kelly information was included based on the post by C crbnSteeladdict . I am guessing that Simmons did not manufacture KON-KAVE axes (or any axes?), but I cannot say that with certainty.


Bob

 

[Flyrod444]

It's my understanding that E C Simmons was a hardware store or store's that had their axes made by company's like Kelly. So all keenkutter items were sourced out to other company's that made them for E C Simmons.