what do you consider a true tactical self defense folder?

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just wondering what you think makes a folder a good self defense/tactical knife? what other knives than the obvious, like the benckmade 710, spyderco military and police g10, fit in this catagory? i really want a police g10, but its kinda pricey for me, so i was looking at the composite JYD 2 and the lahar. are these really tactical knives? what others are out there in the 50-80$ range?
 
My Spyderco Police 3. I would not rather have anything else if I had to use a folder for self defence.
 
Protech Godfather? That's my best guess. Perhaps some OTF. If not including the automatics, I'm leaning towards the Cold Steel Ti-Lite. Almost seems like it was just designed for stabbing, what with the sabre grind, false swedge, acute point, and quillion opening system.
 
Protech Godfather? That's my best guess. Perhaps some OTF. If not including the automatics, I'm leaning towards the Cold Steel Ti-Lite. Almost seems like it was just designed for stabbing, what with the sabre grind, false swedge, acute point, and quillion opening system.

For that price range I second the Ti-Lite. I carry one most of the time when I'm in a suit or "dress" clothes. For regular wear I carry a Lone Wolf T2 Ranger (designed by William Harsey), but that's a little ways out of your price tag (although it has come down considerably since I bought it, and it's a great value for the money). I really like the opening system on the Ti-Lite, and the blade holds a razor edge for a good while. It's light, rides well on just about any type of pants, and won't break the bank. And while it's designed as a "tactical" knife, it can also be used for every day chores as well.
 
For that price range I second the Ti-Lite. I carry one most of the time when I'm in a suit or "dress" clothes. For regular wear I carry a Lone Wolf T2 Ranger (designed by William Harsey), but that's a little ways out of your price tag (although it has come down considerably since I bought it, and it's a great value for the money). I really like the opening system on the Ti-Lite, and the blade holds a razor edge for a good while. It's light, rides well on just about any type of pants, and won't break the bank. And while it's designed as a "tactical" knife, it can also be used for every day chores as well.

cant believe i forgot about the ti lite:rolleyes:. me and a buddy were just talking about it today, how it looks like a pure stabbing machine.
 
cant believe i forgot about the ti lite:rolleyes:. me and a buddy were just talking about it today, how it looks like a pure stabbing machine.

That it is! I haven't tried any real tough tests yet, but it goes through stacked heavy duty cardboard like it's nothing. Serious penetration power on that thing. And the price point makes it even better.
 
spyderco endura 4, its around 50 bux.

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The thumb stud on the Ti-Lite can be switched around, and the pocket clip can also be removed.
 
just wondering what you think makes a folder a good self defense/tactical knife? what other knives than the obvious, like the benckmade 710, spyderco military and police g10, fit in this catagory? i really want a police g10, but its kinda pricey for me, so i was looking at the composite JYD 2 and the lahar. are these really tactical knives? what others are out there in the 50-80$ range?

Composite JYD 2 is the way to go IMO, it has a almost perfect ergonomic handle with nice G-10 scales and a very strong liner lock. The blade shape lends itself to slashing and heavy cutting but because its not very thick it still does good with piercing. The flipper plays a dual role that would also make it good for SD, fast opening and when open the flipper helps prevent the blade coming back on your fingers if the lock were to fail. The last plus I can think of is the blade steel (CPM-D2) it has great edge retention and can take some pretty extreme abuse. The only thing I am not real fond of with this knife is the pocket clip, it works and does not look that bad in person but I still think its too wide and would work much better if it was tip-up.
 
Im gonna go with the Six in TI-LITE because there isnt much else you can use it for =P

Cheers!

the colonel
 
This is true tactical folder only:

http://loneeagle-armory.com/akms_sta.html

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Folding knife is not a weapon, but tool, which as many tool can be used as a weapon (axe, shovel, saw, frying pan...).

It will be fatal mistake to relay your life on folding knife in a fight.

Thanks, Vassili
 
LOL, nozh, you are so right!

The use of a small folding knife in the chronicles of self defense comes to one conclusion - it's a rare thing, and a poor choice. Very few military ever train in the use, and I believe more police officers in a major urban area have experience than the world's soldiers combined.

The factors involved in self defense are the same ones developed over thousands of years of combat - get as much standoff distance as possible. Make it as easy for you to defend, and as hard for the opponent as you can. Therefore, the cardinal rule is to get a personal defense weapon with as long a reach as possible.

In the 4" folding knife, about the only criteria worth discussing is having training, and a knife with a reliable lock. Training is going to have to make up for major deficiencies in reach, standoff, and a complete lack of stopping power - unlike the "folder" nozh linked. In the most commonly referenced scenario, the victim is suddenly attacked with no warning and extreme speed in deployment and instaneously stopping the attack is the goal.

Well, you're already too late, you shouldn't have walked into situation to begin with, regardless of the weak justifications and "I had to's." Remember the rule is standoff distance - and if that means not even physically going there, that's what you do. It's why people move out of neighborhoods, leave their state, immigrate, whatever it takes.

Those that stay behind get folders like nozh's because they finally realize it's what's required.

As for tactical, any non-shiny knife made for hard use will do. Buy the best you can afford accordign to the actual features you prefer - flatground vx hollow, drop point vx whatever, framelock vs backlock, g10/ Ti vs stainless, straight grip vs. dropped butt.

Those choices are specific - that's what the better hard use knives have, blade steel is actually not so important in that range because it will be S30V, ATS34, AUS 8, etc.

The features you can use and actual training in bare hand combatives is a major step to being able to have any proficiency in self defense. Bare hand disarms are probably highest on the list - because you can respond instantly with them, and usually have no choice in the sudden attack fantasy. What knife you might be able to access rates pretty low, so buy what you like - you'll be using it to cut down boxes and spread peanut butter, mostly.
 
zero tolerance
400
350

kershaw
lahar
blur
shallot

benchmade
710
griptialian ( mini )

spyderco
endura ( wave )
delica ( wave )
p'kal

emerson
cqc7 ( mini )
cqc8 ( mini ... )

boker
chad los banos have nice designs ... trance, boker plus g4,
rbb...

there are many good ( self-defense ) folder out there.;)

bye
tom
 
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Spanish Navaja. :D

Honestly I think the "sewing needle" type pieces are a little ridiculous from a SD standpoint...you're not exactly trying to punch through wood or anything, and a narrow blade=narrow wound channel. If Boker ever decided to make a folding smatchet, that would be to one to go for. Oh Cha-aaad... :D
 
I would say a good self defense folder would have a pocket clip for easy access, it would be a one hander for rapid deployment, it would have a solid lock, it would have a grippy handle that could be held in various positions securely, it would have a blade shape that could be used for both slashing and thrusting, and it would have a butt end that could be used for smashing.
 
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