What do you do for water living off the grid?

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I saw some property I'd like to get but aside from drilling a very expensive well I don't know what to do for water. I guess just tote it in. I plan on using the water recreationally, not living there permantly. I was just curious about other folks on recreational land....guess I need to buy an RV or popup.
 
Catch and store the rain for a fraction of the cost of a well. If people can do it easily in the desert than you can to where you live. It is amazing how much rain can be collected just off of your roof.
 
I know of several folks who haul it in in a trailer, then use it to fill a homemade cistern system built form the blue plastic barrels. The trailers can be pulled by a pickup truck or even mounted inside the bed of a pickup.
 
both of those ways work really well and honestly there isnt too many other options, but if you scout like a shark you might be able to do a combo of those things and have 2 sources of water and probably still beat the well pricing. just curious how much are they asking for the well, and how many people do you plan on being dependent on the water at a time?
 
How deep is your water table?

A co-worker of mine "drilled" a shallow well on his property by ramming a PVC pipe into the ground and popping out the "plug" of dirt, and repeating until he struck enough water.

Very labor intensive, but it worked. Maybe you can do that and put in your own well point and pipe and attach a hand pump.
 
How deep is your water table?

if you're in the south it's probably not that deep

if there's no creek nearby, dig a shallow well (20ft or less) - get a handpump and some plastic barrels.

and then get something to filter:

http://www.aquarain.com/

or build shed roofs with a metal that's safe to collect drinking water and have the gutter run into plastic barrels.

ideally have your system uphill from your kitchen to get some pressure at the faucet/spigot. otherwise pump it up to a plastic barrel built on a wooden trestle (if you have electricity)
 
Once the well is in and properly constructed, say it has casing, is sealed and a screen to keep larger sediments or the aquifer from caving into the hole, you want to keep bailing out the water until it is clear. I recall maybe 3-6 well volumes or until it's not turbid.

Then have the water tested. There are guidelines on what to test such as metals like arsenic, iron or volatile organic compounds if you think it might be near a source of contamination, and test for microbiological things like coliform bacteria.

Anyway, that's what a lot of people do when they dig their own wells for private use.

A lot of times the wells (if deep enough) have good water in them already, so just have it tested first.
 
Something I don't understand about digging for water. How do you know if it's clean? When it's underground it is "just clean" because the earth filtered it?
 
For my water supply at my hunting cabin which I sold some years back, I collected water off the tin roof. Unless you live in a state that prohibits this (I don't) its a great way to get out of hauling water. Water is heavy! Like 8.5 pounds per gallon so its a lot of work and hard on everything to do that especially repeatedly over time. For every square foot of surface area you can expose to nature to catch rain you can collect plus or minus .05 to .06 or roughly half a gallon of water per once inch of rain fall. So if you live in an area that gets plenty of rain fall annually you can collect a lot of water with even a small tin roof. If you don't get much rain make the roof bigger to collect more when it does rain.

I had a 220 gallon tank and it was always...always full! I had to disconnect the gutter collection on several occasions each year to keep from over-filling the tank but seriously I could have kept one much much larger than this full just as easily. Had I kept the property I had intended to make another cistern underground storage for it. I showered, did the dishes, watered plants, did laundry and used that water in the toilet for flushing the entire time I owned the property. The system I had used a vinyl gutter that I installed over the porch tin roof. I built that tin roof and it was not that big. Like 20 feet by 10 feet is all it was for 200 square feet for total roof to the sky. The stand pipe or down spout was a 3" pvc pipe and it stood about 7 feet tall. At the bottom I had a plug that I could unscrew when I wanted to drain it. At the top I had a screen which was nothing other than landscape cloth with a fine mesh. The gutter was connected to an elbow that downsized the pipe to 1" going out the side. Under it was the downspout and it was desgned so that when the rain started coming down the stand pipe would start filling up.

The screen up top caught the larger things like acorns and sticks and anything else was washed off the roof so that by the time the stand pipe filled up to the 1" set up as the over flow going off to the side the water was pretty clean and most of the heavier stuff collected in the bottom of my stand pipe. I unscrewed the plug and periodically drained that all out too. Once the water reached that upper elbow it passed through another screen and started toward my tank through the 1" line. I used coffee filters in the tank and the water simply dripped to collect in the 220 gallon tank which was wrapped and secured above ground on blocks but insulated all around to keep it from freezing. I had a secondary tank and a pump and the pump was set to fill that smaller five gallon tank that sat on top my larger one. Once that 5 gallon one filled the pump shut off and I could manually shut it off inside from a light switch if I wanted and I had built in shut off valves and freezer wrap around all the piping.

I had a little coal stove that had a wrap around belly system for plumbing because it was originally an old laundry stove. So basically it was designed to be used to heat water and thats what it did for my water and since I was there the most during the winter it worked out pretty good for me. Its kind of hard to heat that coal stove up in the summer though so what I did in summer was lay out a 200 foot garden hose. Well, two 100 footers actually. The sun heated those hoses up and once they got good and warm I could run those for my shower and there was just enough hot water in those hoses to get a good clean going.

Anyway, when I did need water to drink I tried to keep bottled water around but I had this habit of forgetting all the time so my solution to that was boiling some of the water I collected and sticking that in the fridge. Then when I was thirsty I'd use my Katadyn Pocket micro filter (best water filtration device on planet earth by the way!) and I'd pump out water from that container in my fridge and drink it or use that to give the dog water too.

So thats my story for off the grid water. I never had a water bill the entire time there and I never got sick or had any problems drinking the water using the Katadyn micro filter system. Neither did my dog. :D When I sold the place the guy that bought it from me thought that was a pretty cool device. He still uses it to this day to collect water too. The best part about it is that I got that gutter and PVC stand pipe and the few fittings and mounting hardware at Lowes for under $30 to set the entire thing up. The tank I used was an old Apple Cider tank from a local establishment that had to throw them out after they were empty. It even came with a full cage to keep the tank from deforming from the weight of the contents. I got that for five bucks at the Phillips 66 Thursday sale they had every week here at the time. Ask around. A restaurant near you probably has FDA rules for things like this they use also or you can buy a tank at a farm/feed or tractor supply store like Atwoods. I used common spa chlorine and a pool tester kit to make sure of the PH and proper level of chlorine in my water. Simply test your own tap water for how it should look and make your water look like that and test out the same. Been there done that. :D

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A bit off topic but still about wells and water. A fairly common technique around my area is to drill two wells say 100 feet or so apart. In addition to potable water, they also can become a year around and really economical space heating and cooling system.

The trick is to pump from one well, then through something like a large truck radiator inside the house, fan blow air through the radiator to where you want it, and route the discharge water to the other well. Deeper ground water stays at about 60 to 62F year round. That's pleasantly cool in summer and way above outside air temps in winter in most locations. You would, of course, want to ensure the radiator was certified lead free, interior coated, etc.
 
But the guy has two hoses on the top of the drill system. What is that for?
that is connected to running water to make it easier to get the pvc pipe down. Yes i understand this feature wouldn't be available "off the grid" lol
 
Something I don't understand about digging for water. How do you know if it's clean? When it's underground it is "just clean" because the earth filtered it?

You can't assume that. Wells can be subject to influence from surface water, particularly during certain seasons. Best to send a sample to a local lab for some basic analysis.
 
Something I don't understand about digging for water. How do you know if it's clean? When it's underground it is "just clean" because the earth filtered it?

If it's at or near the surface, it's more dicey because surface contamination could occur. The well should be deeper (in a deeper aquifer) and sealed properly to prevent contamination from the surface. Even if it came from a deeper source (where bacteria is not present or negligible), you might have dissolved arsenic or something like that. So people usually test their water. There are kits available or the county or dept. of health might have some guides for people to use.

However, a deep well does not sound like it would meet the OP's requirements. A spring is a possibility.
 
However, a deep well does not sound like it would meet the OP's requirements. A spring is a possibility.

A spring would be ideal. Run it through some gravel into a holding tank, keep a little Cl2 in it, call it a day. That's the kind of water I grew up on and I'm okay, and so am I.
 
I saw some property I'd like to get but aside from drilling a very expensive well I don't know what to do for water. I guess just tote it in. I plan on using the water recreationally, not living there permantly. I was just curious about other folks on recreational land....guess I need to buy an RV or popup.

When I was living off the grid here for a couple of years I used barrels to collect rain water and I also carried some home in jugs. I filtered and boiled the rain water I used for cooking and making tea. Just boiled what I used for dishwater and bathing, and then used it straight for flushing the commode.
 
Hauling water can be a pita. But you can get big tanks and put them on a trailer. In the end you might just want a well. Check it might make the property be worth enough more you will recoup your investment.

Wells here range from 25-250 feet. Also from 10-500 gpm.

Most things worth doing are worth doing right whatever method you decide.
 
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