What Does This Reply Mean?

While his post does seem kinda confusing, he DID compliment your blade. Why would you take that as negative?
 
The way I interpreted his post was; "nice blade and profile, I think I will make those myself and profit off your design." I might be wrong, but that is how I "read" it. Eventhough I got my influence from the Schrade Sharpfinger, I did go through quite a few iterations to get the profile to flow, and work to get it to fall into my "style." And to have somebody jump in and and say he is going to copy it for his own benefit bothers me.

Like I said, I could be reading it wrong, but that is why I am posting it here, looking for your advice on the situtation. It would be a different story if he would have emailed me asking to reproduce the profile. I have had that happen before and I have no problem with that.

But by him saying he has no "scrouples," to me, that means he is going to take the profile and run with it. It just bothers me. :(
 
Laredo7mm said:
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But by him saying he has no "scrouples," to me, that means he is going to take the profile and run with it. It just bothers me. :(
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I took it the same way you did Sean, I , too, have a model simular to your knife called the D'Amico. (see my avitar) I made it about a year before I saw you knife tho. It is really hard to come up with something that is completly original unless your making fantasy pieces.

Its one thing to be influenced by something and it is another to rip off someones design and brag about it before you do.
 
Laredo7mm said:
to me, that means he is going to take the profile and run with it.
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The world is filled with people who want to knock-off and copy intellectual property. :(

Welcome to the club.
 
Keep your eyes open and if he eventually posts on where he obviously co-opted one of your design features-burn him.

That being said, most makers have tried some variations on the style of knife that Schrade called Sharpfinger. Many of them better knives than Schrades ~$25.00 knife.
 
Michael - I saw yours a while ago, and really like the looks of it. I know what i did is nothing original, but it just rubs me the wrong way when I interpret that the post is saying; "thanks, I am going to copy that." I looked back in my design files and I came up with that profile on 11/03/2002. Yup, I sure did take heavy influence from the Sharpfinger, but I tweaked it.

Chuck - I think I understand where you are coming from. Really, I do understand what you are saying. I am not out steal other peoples' ideas, but I do want to know how things are done. It is just the engineer in me. ;) Your stuff is absolutely fantastic, ever since I saw it years ago I wanted to know how it was done.

Now I know, but will I produce it? No. Have I made similar by a different process? Yes. Does it mean I am going to take it to market? Absolutely not. I can get a similar effect, but the working proprties are dismal to say the least. That damn "trasient liquid phase bonding" ain't worth a darn when you try to forge the billet or develop a pattern. ;)

A thirst for knowledge is one thing, but ripping somebody off is a different game all together.
 
J. Alot of makers will disagree with you on that :)

Like Chuck Bybee said, welcome to the club. What you have to realize is when you say "I designed/stylized/copied/etc it along the lines of (someone else's design) then the next guy can just as well say that he has the right to "design/stylize/copy it along the lines of (someone else's design), maybe yours in this case.

Look at it this way. If he was a friend, visiting with you in your shop, and asked if he could use some of the design elements in your knife, you'd more than likely tell him to go right ahead. Most makers are like that. His interpetation of it will probably look totally different than yours.

That design has probably been copied as much as a Loveless drop point hunter.
 
J. Neilson said:
My understanding is being copied/imitated is a form of flattery.
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J. No way I am going to imitate you. :rolleyes: I am not going to act like a turkey!!!! :p A Ole Goat is bad enough. HEHEHEHE!!!! :D
 
I understand what you mean Kit. I have used the styles of other makers/knives but, I've always asked permission from that maker or, if they've passed on, their family. Though the old saying is that it's a form of flattery, it's not always welcome...that's probably what I should have said.
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George, no one could imitate you, that would just be too rough. :p
 
Laredo7mm said:
But by him saying he has no "scrouples," to me, that means he is going to take the profile and run with it. It just bothers me. :(
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I would say Sean he likes your knife and can't afford one...
if he is any maker at all he will either kill himself in the market or move on to other things
of his own talent, if he has any, if he doesn't it won't come out the same anyway you can tell a copy fairly easy..
and for your price he can't compete with you anyway.
I wouldn't let it bug you their everywhere...
 
Kit Carson said:
J. That design has probably been copied as much as a Loveless drop point hunter.
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Oh my gosh!!, someone's copied Loveless??#$%^%#! I'm astonished...

Ok I confess. I've copied EVERYONE!!! Nearly everything I make is sharp AND has a point. A handle too :)

First of all Sean, that's a really cool little knife! great execution but your known for that!
Concerning design rights, don't we all get our ideas from somewhere?? and tweak'em a bit in our own particular way? Gaugain painted nudes; so did Picasso. I'm just looking to lighten this conversation up a little and I do know how Sean feels. Hell I showed a newbie maker here locally my new stamp. He asked where I got mine made and lo and behold he copied my stamp EXACTLY! Well... with his name on it of course. But then to be fair, I designed my stamp to look sorta like my heros: Michael Price; he's rolling over in his grave as we speak.
So. Will this guy's knife look as good as Seans?? I'd bet not. Personally I find so little really that is unique where knife making is concerned I can nearly count it all on my fingers and half of that only concerns folders!

1 ..... the liner lock (so who got credit for that I ask??)idespensible in modern folders.
2...... The Spyderco "hole" now, that's cool AND patented.
3...... The first "auto" Yes there's an a$$ load of patents out there but sombody thought of it to begin with.
4...... Blade serrations ... bread knives had'em in the 19th cen. so where's the credit go for that one??
5....

ok you guys... fill in the blank! what would 5 be??? You tell me.

regards, mitch :)
 
Laredo7mm said:
The way I interpreted his post was; "nice blade and profile, I think I will make those myself and profit off your design." I might be wrong, but that is how I "read" it. ................
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IMO, that's exactly what he meant.


Edited to add; Thinking about this, I don't know what he really means. He could be a face value choad that has no problems copying, and profiting from others work, or he could be being facetious, and giving you a sly cut. In either case, he's a Choad!! :barf: :rolleyes:
 
Yeah it is hard telling. He just replied and was all angry about this post in this forum and the for sale area. But I even replied (yesterday) saying I was wrong and probably took it wrong because I was in a pissy mood already.

It is just difficult to know what the intent of a post is when they are so ambiguous.

Oh well, what can you do? I am not loosing any sleep over it.
 
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