What Hardness is KAI going to run the Maxamet in the zt0888?

Jestersinthemoon

Jestersinthemoon

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Hello all,

I have been essentially obsessed with the 0600, 0777, and 0888 since they first showed up on the scene ( particularly the 0777 ). Due to some health complications and basically just life in general, I didn't pay as much attention to the knife world during December and January as I normally would, and toward the end of January, I began to realize that I missed out and would likely either never get my hands on an 0777 and 0888, or I would be stuck paying an exorbitant amount for both on the secondary market ( like I'm doing now for the Volt 3600 and Speedform )

Well, somehow the gods smiled upon me when a friendly gent passed along some info that there was a website that still had a couple of 0888 pre-orders available. So, I snagged one and it turns out that its not the 110V model, its the Maxamet model. Well, I didn't know too much about Maxamet so I started doing a little research and I was pretty impressed. Everything I saw showed it having incredible cutting ability and wear resistance and that it is being heat treated to 68 - 73 HRC.

I'm a big fan of ZDP-189 and while I had heard of it, I actually just recently found out that CPM-s110v was Crucible's answer to ZDP-189. So, I'm guessing now that Micro-melt Maxamet is Carpenter's new addition to the super-steel pot.

Anyway,all of this rambling for a simple question. Does anyone know what hardness Kershaw/ZT going to run the Maxamet on the zt0888?

Thanks!

W
 
Jestersinthemoon said:
Anyway,all of this rambling for a simple question. Does anyone know what hardness Kershaw/ZT going to run the Maxamet on the zt0888?

Thanks!

W
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I think we won't know until it comes out. Or unless a mod comes along with the answer. 60-62 would be my guestimation.
 
I'm not totally sure but I thought it said 68 when they first announced it here. I just remember thinking "Dang that's hard!" I could be totally wrong though.
 
All of the info I've seen so far ( and it hasn't been much ) on Maxamet is saying that it is designed for "usable" cutting at 68-73 HRC. It all talks about how its got unbelievable wear-resistance and hardness, but without the severe chipping issues of other steels at high HRC.
 
greeenie said:
thats what she said!

couldnt help it sorry.... But if they come out at 68 omg! that would be a crazy blade, but how can anyone actually use one?
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I didn't even think of that being interpreted like that and I normally would:D You got me.

I'm all for crazy wear resistant blade steels and pushing for the next best thing but I honestly could not fathom having to sharpen something that's 68 on the rockwell scale. My caly 3.5 in ZDP 189 is 65 IIRC and that's pushing it.
 
greeenie said:
I hate sharpening elmax... i cant imagine 110v or even s90
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I still want to get something in s110v just to say I've tried it.

Hey Jestersinthemoon. Where did you hear that ZDP-189 was comparable to S110? I'm not doubting you, just genuinely curious and intrigued.
 
SPXTrader said:
ZDP and S110V. Remember, not everything is known about ZDP's composition. Hitachi has kept some secrets...

http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=ZDP-189, S110V∋=410,&hrn=1&gm=0

As for sharpening, I've found Elmax to be extremely easy to touch up. ZDP and S110V take a little more effort, as long as you don't let them dull completely.
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I was just about to post that same link:D I love that comparison graph. I haven't had trouble with Elmax either except trying to keep the blade (0561) steady while sharpening. Very hard to get a bevel that isn't "splotchy" with the Edge pro and that knife (For me at least) That has nothing to do with the steel though, which is fantastic IMO.
 
yea, i use a lansky, so blade stability isnt an issue, but it takes forever. even with my diamond kit
 
Lemme dig around Seelow.

I remember reading in an article, and then again on a forum somewhere, that Crucible started pushing 110v because they wanted to have a knife steel out there that could compete with ZDP. I have four ZDP-189 knives and absolutely LOVE the steel. I would never venture to call myself a super-steel snob. I'm happy to say that I own knives in 440c, 52100, 8Cr13MoV, even good ole AUS-8A, but damn if you don't really notice a difference with ZDP-189 and M390, Vanax 75, and Elmax.

I don't have a s110v blade yet, but I'm dying to get the Native5 and a Shallot 110V and put them through some tests. Read something that said that s35VN and s110v are the only two fairly popular alloys that contain significant amounts of niobium and talked about the benefits to knives

There's tons of interesting steels out there that I still want to try.........N690, Vanax 35, Maxamet, s110V, Boye Cobalt or Cobalt Special
 
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