What I did Thursday (mostly such)

Horsewright

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My son was in need of some new leggings. He gets about a year out of a pair. This shot I call his corner office with a view. Mann Lake Ranch, Oregon. First ride in these new white leggings.

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Now they are not so new and a lot of life has happened to them.

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So Nichole and I told him to pick some colors as one of his Christmas presents and we'd build him a new pair. Thought I'd give a quick pictorial here. He picked jade and grey for the colors. He liked how the white pair fit as far as the actual legging went so we used the solid part sans fringe for a pattern. Had to modify it some as he wanted chinks instead of armitas this time, a different kind of legging.

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Here the leg plates have been glued on prior to sewing.

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Cutting the fringe. I cut out the two pieces and lay them face side together. I then clip them togther and cut both at one time. I use to use a roundknife for this and some folks use scissors. But one of these roller knives like this is the way to go. I can cut all this fringe in about 15 minutes. He wanted the fringe a little shorter on this pair. They are 7.5" long.

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Here is one of the legs with the fringe, leg plate and upper leg reinforcement sewn on. Ready to sew on the carved yokes and trim any excess.

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Now the carved yokes have been sewn on along with the black underlayment highlight. The fringe still needs to be trimmed along the edge. I use a roundknife for that as the roller knife won't make that tight a curve.

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Trimming the lining on the front belt. I really like the Osborne edgers for this task. This is a #2. Still have to make and line the belts for the back, cut the slots in the legplate to lace the legs together and some other little things. But they are close to being done.

Got em done. Finished them Thurs evening and this is them Fri morning.

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These are "step ins" which my son prefers so the legs are laced together. Normally I will use buckles and straps to close the legs. Easier for us old guys to get into. Here's a close up of the finished tops and belts.

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How thick is the leather in the main body of the leggings ?
The leather would have to be quite soft and supple wouldn't it ?
Very interesting to see the process and as usual beautiful work :thumbup:


Ken
 
Thanks Ebb and Ken. The leather is called Mellowtan and I get this from The Hide House. Its about 4-5 oz but is actually a pretty firm temper. My son wanted a "stiffer" leather as he called it this time. He picked the leather from my sample book from Hide House so he picked the temper as well as the colors. Normally I use a leather called Cheyenne for leggings. I get this from Hide House too. It is much softer and drapey as they call it but its colors are limited.
 
Beautifull work:thumbup: For us who dont know whats the use of that something on the side of the leg(thigh)?
 
When do you find time to make knives?!

I love white leather like that.

Question. What do you do with worn leggings and other stuff? Do you repurpose it or bin it?

Btw, I love the sandbags. I need to make some.
 
Macan that piece on the outside of the thigh is called a leg plate. Basically it is a reinforcement. This is a pic of my daughter, from one of our brandings about 3 years ago when she was 15 I guess. She's carrying the ice chest with the meds and vaccines for the calves into the corral. You can see that part of the leg, called the flap, of her leggings which wraps around the thigh and closes encasing her leg. On her pair I used straps and buckles to close the leg. The straps are on the main part of the leg and I put the buckles on the flap that comes around the thigh. There are 3 sets on each leg. The leg plate provides reinforcement to rivet the straps to the leg. Sometimes conchos are used and sometimes chigago screws instead of rivets. But rivets would be the most common. On the pair I made in this thread, the legs are laced together semi permantly. So that black strap threaded through the jade leg plate also threads through the flap that comes around the thigh attaching the two together. They are called step ins. So you would pull them on like a pair of jeans instead of fastening them around your leg with the straps and buckles. Hope that makes sense.

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So in this pic you can see the leg plate on my daughter's leggings and the rivets that hold the straps on the inside. She's fixing the front legs in the rope so we can hold the calf down for her horseback while she cuts/castrates the calf. Its important to cross the legs in the loop of the rope, see how she's pulling up on the bottom front foot. Crossing the feet prevents the feet from slipping out. It makes her safer while she's working. The calf can't struggle much with its feet off the ground and sure as heck can't kick her. I have the back feet and my son has the front. Ya may not want to see the pic in the sequence of what happened next after this one, it makes some guys cringe.

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Strig old leggins just hang on the wall. I've got 2 pair, Nichole has 4, Logan has 4 or 5. Very occasionally I'll cut em up but not too often. The workbench directly behind me when I was working on these leggings looked like this:

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My brother calls it the never ending conveyor belt. 62 knives, 50 with bolsters. Almost ready to start shaping handles on this batch. Lots of 12 hour days. Didn't work Fri or Sat so Sun put on most of the bolsters. Finished bolsters yesterday and glued up the knives without bolsters and started putting handles on the bolstered knives today. Keeps me out of the bars.
 
Thank you for a detailed explanation and beautifull pictures. Its always intersting to see someone's workshop or farm not to mention model of yours who made pictures just more beautifull.:applouse:
 
Dave

I don't want to sidetrack your thread , but is this the same leather dressing that you use ?



Ken
 
Yep Ken that is it. I love that stuff. Gotta get me some more. If anybody on our side of the equator is interested I get that from Big Bend Saddelry. Its not cheap but it really does work well. Thanks bflying, you bet.
 
Yep Ken that is it. I love that stuff. Gotta get me some more. If anybody on our side of the equator is interested I get that from Big Bend Saddelry. Its not cheap but it really does work well.

Cool :thumbup:

I've heard you mention it a few times and I was in the RMW shop the other day and saw it , so grabbed a tin of it .
It smells very similar to another local product I've been using , but it think there are differences in whats in it .
I've just given everything a dose of it so will see how it goes :)

Ken

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Good deal Ken. I noticed that hobble belt in your one pic was a Williams. Our saddlemaker recommended it to us and we've been using it ever since. When you drop what one of those things cost on a chunk of dead cow and the guy that makes it and has been making em for 30 plus years is real specific about what to use on them, I pay attention. In fact we just got our third saddle from him a few days back. Nichole had ordered it back in April. Her old one was a little narrow for the horse she's riding so needed one that fit this guy a little better. Here's a few pics:

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Strig old leggins just hang on the wall. I've got 2 pair, Nichole has 4, Logan has 4 or 5. Very occasionally I'll cut em up but not too often. The workbench directly behind me when I was working on these leggings looked like this:

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My brother calls it the never ending conveyor belt. 62 knives, 50 with bolsters. Almost ready to start shaping handles on this batch. Lots of 12 hour days. Didn't work Fri or Sat so Sun put on most of the bolsters. Finished bolsters yesterday and glued up the knives without bolsters and started putting handles on the bolstered knives today. Keeps me out of the bars.

Hung up like decor? I've seen some super cool display walls where a racer will mount a dozen (or whatever) helmets from their career. I knew a guy that actually made the mounts for doing just that. I've got around 4-5 helmets that would look cool in the garage.

Not to get too far off leather, but what are the shiny foil looking bits on the scales 3rd & 4th set up on the left?

Amazing.
 
Leather is an incredible medium for the creative. Amazing work on that saddle and on the leggings.
 
Dave

It sounds like it may have been cheaper to just get her another horse :)

Very nice Saddle , and I'm surprised that a RMW product is known and recommended all the way over there .
RMW clothing has turned into a kind of fashion label and is no longer real work orientated gear which is a shame .
Their boots are really nice , but there's only a handful of original RMW products left in their lineup . I think that leather dressing may be one of the originals .


Ken
 
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Strig buddy, not so much decor as just a wall full in the tackroom. Do have a few things inside the house but no leggings. Those scales are merino sheephorn. They are laying with the inside up. I dye the interior of sheephorn with Fiebings dark brown oil dye. Every once in a while sheephorn will polish up so nice that it becomes translucent. Kinda disconcerting if you can see through your handle to the tang. The tang on my knives have wight relieveing holes so it just don't look good. Dyeing the sheephorn on the inside prevents that. So you're seeing the shiny bits of the side that I didn't dye. At one time sheephorn was my most popular handle material but it has more than doubled in price the last few years so not as many folks order it now. So 6 sets of sheephorn in that batch.

Ebbtide and trestle thanks.

Ken. I guess that stuff had been here for a long time. I can remember using a tin of it probably 30 odd years ago. I don't even remeber where I got it. Then John (the saddlemaker) recommended it and I hunted it down. Been using it ever since. I was using a product called Skidmore's which was bee wax based and I really liked it. Like the Williams a little better. Too bad about Williams the company doing that. Has happened here too with Abercombie and Fitch probably being the most famous example. The movie: Man From Snowy River made a big splash in the horse world here. There was a long time when anything Aussie was pretty cool. Fortunes were made selling oilskins here.
 
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