What I want from Spyderco - a list

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I was just looking at someone's website that lists photos of ALL Spyderco models. I'm a big fan of Spyderco knives -- though I am sure not the hugest collector. See, I'm partial to certain designs, and um, anti-partial to certain others.

I write this in the hopes that Sal Glesser sees this and gains confidence that there are enough others out there like me that it would be to his advantage to have Spyderco do certain things differently -- or to do do more things in a certain way.

- More integral compression locks.
I have come to avoid liner locks and frame locks because of the ball-bearing detent design for keeping the blade closed. The compression locks use that milled section of tang to accomplish the task, and the fact that there's no "extra part" in the liner makes the essential difference for me.

- More "ball bearing locks" like on the Dodo -- but on knives like the Military, if possible.

- STOP with the recurved blades! I don't buy them. If I did, they'd never be users, because I sharpen on a Spyderco Ceramic Benchstone, which really can't do recurve at all. I like an uncomplicated blade to sharpen. The Dodo would be an excellent knife with a slightly longer, non-recurved blade, like that of the Hunter perhaps. The S.P.O.T. also would be in my collection if not for the recurved blade. (Try a pattern like the Benchmade TK-1.)

- Make screw-together versions of as many riveted knives as possible. I'd buy half a dozen knives on the spot if they were only built with the ability for users to disassemble. I simply don't like the inability to tighten-up a knife if it needs it. With a riveted knife, like a Delica, or a pinned knife, like a s.s. Copilot, what are my options, besides sending the knife in for service? I simply don't know if it is practical or feasible to make a lockback that can be taken apart with torx screws. Seems to me that it should be. Is there some secret I don't know that prevents this?

Also, if lockbacks like the Delica could be made with torx screws, I would love to see a lot of other models that are currently made with liner locks offered as screw-together lockbacks.

- Make the A.T.R. without the holes in the handle. The extra weight would be negligible. The holes, to me, seem like they are waiting for the tip of a finger to manage to work its way in while the knife is closing, and the blade would act like a guillotine. Maybe it's a long shot, but when I look at that handle, that's what I see. Plus, objects in a pocket with the knife could contact the edge while jostling around, and nick up a nice sharpening job.

- Same thing with the SpyderFly! I just saw a picture of it, with that NON-sheathed tip when the knife is closed! What is up with that?! The curves of the handles allow an almond-shaped aperture to leave the blade tip exposed when closed. This seems almost silly to me. The blade tip will be out to show off when the knife is open: it need not be visible when the knife is closed. I think that this, again, invites pocket contents to contact the blade's edge and nick it up.

So, with all that said, I apologize if I come off sounding like I know how the knife world should be designing things. After all, I've never designed or made a knife in my life. But after a decade-plus of acquiring knives for personal use, I have come to be able to discern pretty well what I like and don't like. I'm a reasonably educated knife consumer. My desires in a knife are practical, and what I enjoy most is functional simplicity. So Sal, if you're reading, I really hope you take my comments to heart, because I think the ideas I've listed would be tremendous improvements in Spyderco's line. I hope others feel the same way.

-Jeffrey
 
STOP making such butt ugly knives!!!

He-he that'll put the cat among the pidgeons. ;) :D :D
 
As I posted in the Spyderco forum... I want a spare Sharpmaker base without having to buy the whole system OR another way to carry four more triangular stones with my existing SM base. (for diamonds and Ultra-fines)
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
- More "ball bearing locks" like on the Dodo -- but on knives like the Military, if possible.

- Make screw-together versions of as many riveted knives as possible

- Make the A.T.R. without the holes in the handle. The extra weight would be negligible-Jeffrey


Ditto to much of that. I think the A.T.R. needs MORE weight in the scales, it is too unbalanced. and get rid of the holes in the clip too. The main reason I passed on getting one was the balance factor.
 
make your post in the Sypderco forum - better chance of getting a reply.
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
- STOP with the recurved blades! I don't buy them. If I did, they'd never be users, because I sharpen on a Spyderco Ceramic Benchstone, which really can't do recurve at all. I like an uncomplicated blade to sharpen. The Dodo would be an excellent knife with a slightly longer, non-recurved blade, like that of the Hunter perhaps. The S.P.O.T. also would be in my collection if not for the recurved blade. (Try a pattern like the Benchmade TK-1.)


-Jeffrey

I couln't disagree more. I love the recurved shape. It's whay I got a dod0, why I want a S.P.O.T. and why my girlfriend wants a cricket. And you can't blame a kife company for making a knife that you can't sharpen on your particular setup especially when they make a sharpening system that will handle that shape with ease.

N2
 
Neko2 said:
I couln't disagree more. I love the recurved shape. It's whay I got a dod0, why I want a S.P.O.T. and why my girlfriend wants a cricket. And you can't blame a kife company for making a knife that you can't sharpen on your particular setup especially when they make a sharpening system that will handle that shape with ease.

N2

Ahh, tch, see, i disagree: I don't think Spyderco is the type of company that does things just to trap consumers into needing them more (like American car companies seem to do). So I don't think that Spyderco was leveraging sales of their Sharpmaker by making knives whose blades require it for sharpening. Besides, I do have a Sharpmaker (had it for years now), and I also have a ProFile, which sharpens recurve because it has a sloped edge in addition to a squared edge. The thing is, I really like the flat, broad Ceramic Whetstone for sharpening, since it's hefty and sits squarely in place on my desk for sharpening.

If Spyderco would make the Ceramic Whetstone with a curved surface on one side, like on the ProFile, that would be ideal. It would have to be sold in a box that allowed access to sharpen knives with the stone in the case, like the current Whetstone does. (This is the benefit of the big Whetstone: the rubber feet on the case hold it steady while the stone is in the rectangular blue plastic case during sharpening.

The main reason I don't like recurve blades lately is because my now-preferred sharpener can't do them. I don't like to go back to my ProFile anymore, now that I feel the improvement in the form of the Ceramic Whetstone format.

-Jeffrey
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
Ahh, tch, see, i disagree: I don't think Spyderco is the type of company that does things just to trap consumers into needing them more (like American car companies seem to do). So I don't think that Spyderco was leveraging sales of their Sharpmaker by making knives whose blades require it for sharpening. Besides, I do have a Sharpmaker (had it for years now), and I also have a ProFile, which sharpens recurve because it has a sloped edge in addition to a squared edge. The thing is, I really like the flat, broad Ceramic Whetstone for sharpening, since it's hefty and sits squarely in place on my desk for sharpening.

If Spyderco would make the Ceramic Whetstone with a curved surface on one side, like on the ProFile, that would be ideal. It would have to be sold in a box that allowed access to sharpen knives with the stone in the case, like the current Whetstone does. (This is the benefit of the big Whetstone: the rubber feet on the case hold it steady while the stone is in the rectangular blue plastic case during sharpening.

The main reason I don't like recurve blades lately is because my now-preferred sharpener can't do them. I don't like to go back to my ProFile anymore, now that I feel the improvement in the form of the Ceramic Whetstone format.

-Jeffrey


First, I understand what you mean and that you dont like the curved blade for sharpening in your flat stone. However I also dont think that spyderco "traps" consumers into buying their products to sharpen their blades (especially since they'll do it for free). I think that they make a sharpener that will sharpen all of their knives which I find extremely responsible. I guess that since not all of their blades are recurved and since some of them that are also come in a standard edge (meerkat for one) that I don't see what the big deal with that is.
The dodo wouldn't be the same knife without the curved blade. It was designed to do things that a much larger blade could do while staying small enough to carry legally in more localles. It really benefits from the sharp tip and aggressive curve to when opening boxes, envelopes, cutting rope and lots of other things that slip of some of my other small knives.
I know that you're not making any unrealistic requests but I want to make sure Sal knows that some of us like the knives the way they are :)

In a nice way I disagree with most of the points you made in your initial post. I do agree that being able to take the knives apart would be nice and that the compression and ball locks are awesome but I like the holes in the spyderfly and the ATR.

Here's hoping that they kep making knives that sell well so we can all get what we want.

N2
 
TonyC said:
STOP making such butt ugly knives!!!

He-he that'll put the cat among the pidgeons. ;) :D :D



Agreed! :D

I only have one and its the little partial serration version about 6 years old called a Thorn (or something similar) Its a tough little bugger though I'll give it that.
 
You see, you're asking Spyderco to stop being Spyderco. To stop pushing the envelope. Sal has always maintained that they are constantly refining their product. There is no knife design out there that is absolutely perfect. There are many knife designs that are perfect for me. Spyderco makes some cool ass knives and the quality is near perfect. Yay Spyderco!
 
I agree with Sticky, KEEP THE CALYPSO JR. PLEASE! How about reintroducing the full size calypso? What do you say Sal?

Tom
 
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