greetings- I am new here and would like to know a few things. In the 4-sale thread someone is selling 1084 steel. I am assuming this steel needs to be forged. What size would i need to get to forge around 5 small hunting knives?I left a post on that thread but was not answered. I am going through the newbie info but still have questions. i plan on forging in coals. regards tony
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what is 1084
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1084 doesn't have to be forged, you can grind a knife out of it just fine.
the designation "1084" basically means:
"10" = Simple Carbon Steel, no major alloying elements
"84" = 0.84% carbon content
As to how much you need to forge 5 small hunters, that depends on a few things:
- What is your definition of "small"?
- Full tang or hidden/stick tang construction?
- How much forging experience do you have?
- How many will you screw up before you're happy with your final product?
the 1084 that Aldo has for sale is great stuff, I've used plenty of it as have others.
-d
i want to make hidden tangs about 4-5inch blades with 4-5 inch handle. so i need about 10" by 2" wide. i dont have any experience with forging but if it comes in a flat piece i could grind it. Ive been using files and grinding them down with a file and a rotory grinder. I am learning about the different kinds of steel but heat treating seems confusing. i would have to use a torch so i am looking for steels that will let me do that. I am not going to sell anything, its just a hobby that im interested in. i enjoy working with files but since joining this forum i am amazed at all there is to making a knife. I just want to keep it simple and have some fun without spending thousands of dollars on equipment. I did order me some cocobola blocks and from what i know they dont need to be " stabilized". so i could just go ahead and use them. BR Tony
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3/16 should be plenty thick for small hunters, forging the bevels should add 1/4 - 3/8 of an inch to the width so a 1" or 1.25" width should work.
You can probably stretch the bar by around 2" per knife by the time you do the distal taper and either tapered tang or stick tang so figure at LEAST 6" bar for a ~8" knife.
this past weekend I was going to measure a bar before and after I cut the blade off and see how much steel I actually use to make a blade of 'X' length but I forgot.
You can probably stretch the bar by around 2" per knife by the time you do the distal taper and either tapered tang or stick tang so figure at LEAST 6" bar for a ~8" knife.
this past weekend I was going to measure a bar before and after I cut the blade off and see how much steel I actually use to make a blade of 'X' length but I forgot.
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Welcome Tony,
The 1084 you saw advertised in the For Sale section doesn't actually exist yet. If all goes well (when the foundry gets enough orders) the foundry will run it, hopefully at the end of the month. It would then be available in July. That stock will be 0.25" thick, 1.5" wide and 5' long. It seems like it should be able to work just fine for what you're talking about, whether forging or cutting and grinding/filing.
All the best, Phil
The 1084 you saw advertised in the For Sale section doesn't actually exist yet. If all goes well (when the foundry gets enough orders) the foundry will run it, hopefully at the end of the month. It would then be available in July. That stock will be 0.25" thick, 1.5" wide and 5' long. It seems like it should be able to work just fine for what you're talking about, whether forging or cutting and grinding/filing.
All the best, Phil