What is cho creep

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Shann

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I'm not exactly sure why there is a cho in the first place, but that is anwered to some degree in the HI FAQs.

But what is cho "creep"
 
A traditional cho is located more closely to the handle. "Cho creep" is when the cho has creeped forward, away from the handle. Considered undesirable by some.

Personally, I don't mind....I can't think of a time when I've needed that part of the blade sharpened....In fact, I prefer it with no edge in case my hand slips.


Design-wise...it does kind of make it look silly to have it farther out.
 
Traditionally, having the cho closer to the handle enables the user to make a more precise sighting of the enemy and or prey when preparing to fire his khukuri.

It may be apocryphal, but the "cho creep" may be a result of the increase in population of Nepal, and the subsequent deforestation which gives a longer line of sight for aiming the khukuri. Thus, the movement of the cho out allows for the contemporary user to have a better field of view.

This latter theory works well with the interpretation that the reduction in over-all quality of the torture knives in contemporary khukuris is due to the fact that targets are acquired at a greater distance, and the technique of lying in wait to ambush the enemy and torture them with the smaller knives has gone out of fashion/contemporary training.
 
You can use a dremel tool to make a second & third cho, below your high, creepy one. This enables the khuk user to get the range in a similar manner as a folding rear sight.

By the way, one of my 2 torture knives is so dull, the enemy was tickled by it. I swear, it's as though the kamis helper didn't sharpen it at all. It's like flat. Worse than a butter knife.

AA
 
I do not like the larger cho gap cosmetically, but it really doesn't bother me.

What I do not like is the perhaps attendant problem of the bolster covering the tang rather than the blade! I would much rather have a good, tight handle-to-tang fit with the bolster filling a mainly cosmetic (non-structural) role. There seems to be some evidence to support my suspicion that cho creep is actually "bolster creep." (or "bolster retreat?")

Kismet, my personal hypothesis is that the khukuri designers are allowing for the increased height of young Nepalese insurgents due to improved nutrition. Either that, or they intend these newer khuks to be thrown at Westerners. (This may also account for the decline in torture knife quality: soft Westerners needing less rigorous torture than Nepalese warriors).

At any rate, moving the cho forward compensates for target size, not longer ranges. You need to start doing your research, or someone will turn your post into an internet rumor! :)
 
AA, are the Kamis still using that old blunted torture knife model? sheesh!

The last HI Khuk I got also had a chape so rounded that my last adversary didn't even scream when I used it on him. In fact, it barely even hurts my leg! What is the world coming to? No one appreciates torture anymore.
 
Thanks for the answers. Seriously, though, my cho is too small to be an efficient bottle opener. :mad:
 
Ad Astra said:
You can use a dremel tool to make a second & third cho, below your high, creepy one. This enables the khuk user to get the range in a similar manner as a folding rear sight.

By the way, one of my 2 torture knives is so dull, the enemy was tickled by it. I swear, it's as though the the kamis helper didn't sharpen it at all. It's like flat. Worse than a butter knife.

AA
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Good idea! I think I'll take that a step further and make cho sighting notches all the way up to the sweet spot. Imagine how accurate my khuk will be!

On the lousy edge on the second little torture knife, I know what you mean and have a bunch of my torture knives that are the same exact way! Almost every other one. I've found though that as horribly dull as they are, you can still do some pretty good damage by shoving the dull knife up the enemy's nostril, which gets their attention.

Until now, I always figured that "Cho!, CREEP!" was what you yelled when attacking with your khuk or dull nostril torture knife (the name calling kinda throws them off for a crucial second), but I guess I'll have to go with Kismet's more logical explanation instead. For sure that Dan guy has it wrong though!

Regards,

Norm
 
We've been deluded by years by mistranslations of the Ghurka battle cry--at last the truth is out: "Cho, Creep!" I love it!
 
BruiseLeee is the official Cho Creep, actually. A true mafia goon if I ever saw one....

:p


Nice, Kismet! :D
 
Comparison between Shop 1 AK and 2003-ish AK. Cho creep has been even worse than shown until recently, when the new knives got much better. In the last month things have been very good on the cho and bolster front IMHO.
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My Bura 14" BDC just arrived with traditional (non-hibaki) bolster and < 1/2" gap-to-Cho (GTC). Loving it! :)
 
I think the Cho Creep Syndrome more of a psychological malady than anything else. It has been linked to a deterioration in the solidity of the handle.

However, my HI khuks take a lick'n with or without the DREADED CHO CREEP.


munk
 
Back when I changed my user name to Bobwhite, I considered using Cho Creep as a user name. I am surprised no one else has done it.
 
don't listen to these guys they'll confuse you. Uncle Bill was told by the Kami's themselves that a farther out cho catches blood before it can reach the blade... thus preventing the rusting effects of blood on the blade itself.

A cho closer to the the handle doesn't as effectively catch the dripping blood.

Granted, we Cdn's don't have the level of gore that you American's experience. But than population wise you are greater. Nonetheless, after a full day of gore, it's nice to know that i don't have to worry about blood collecting in my scabbard.

Boo yah.
 
What's a Cdn?

I thought the Kamis told Bill the cho further out was more inherently safe for the user in case of a slip.


munk
 
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