What is the 110 Custom wood inserts really made of?

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blades4brains

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Hey guys i was just wondering if the different woods you can get on the custom buck 110 are actually different types of wood? Ex: is the heritage walnut
really walnut and is the cherry actually cherrywood? Do they just use a composite of some type, a laminate, or do they use the same type of wood with different stains and finishes? Just wondering. Thanks.


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blades4brains said:
Hey guys i was just wondering if the different woods you can get on the custom buck 110 are actually different types of wood? Ex: is the heritage walnut
really walnut and is the cherry actually cherrywood? Do they just use a composite of some type, a laminate, or do they use the same type of wood with different stains and finishes? Just wondering. Thanks.
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Far as I know, current options are all Dymondwood, which uses only birch, and the different "woods" are just different colored dyes:

http://www.rutply.com/products/dymondwood.html

I'm certainly willing to be wrong, though. :)

- OS
 
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You should read the thread below called "Standard 110 Scales."

You will find this from Dave 110 on the Custom Shoppe and other scales that are solid wood.

walnut
maple
ironwood
koa
maccassar ebony
lignum vitae
and any burl's
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Richard M. added the shedua used on early 112s.

Note: I see that was an old post, but I haven't heard of any changes to plywood in the Custom Shoppe.

There is no such thing as plywood KOA.......I sure hope so anyway.



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Oh, "custom shop"...sorry.

Although when I go to Custom Shop onsite, I only see 3 choices for two knives.

Cherrywood, Asian Waterbuffalo, Elkhorn. Actually, there's only ONE wood choice, yes? And the "Cherrywood" is not Dymondwood?

Or can you call in for other options, different knives than just the Folding Hunter and Alpha Hunter, different woods, etc?

edit: btw, Dave's post you reference is indeed two and half years old.

- OS
 
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OhShoot said:
I only see 3 choices for two knives. Or can you call in for other options, different knives than just the Folding Hunter and Alpha Hunter, different woods, etc? OS
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You need to move the scroll bar to the right to see additional options. And nope, what you see listed is all that is offered.
 
Tin Sue said:
You need to move the scroll bar to the right to see additional options. And nope, what you see listed is all that is offered.
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Well, duh. Okay, looks like 8 or 9 woods in all then, counting those for both knives. Thanks. List different from the one above in this thread, though.+

"Indigo Royalwood", "Fiji Orangewood", "Heritage Walnut" are Dymondwood names from Rutland's catalog they have online, though, so I still wonder. Especially since I can't find any real reference to these names (or some others) as actual extant trees!

- OS
 
OhShoot said:
Well, duh. Okay, looks like 8 or 9 woods in all then, counting those for both knives. Thanks. List different from the one above in this thread, though.+

"Indigo Royalwood", "Fiji Orangewood", "Heritage Walnut" are Dymondwood names from Rutland's catalog they have online, though, so I still wonder. Especially since I can't find any real reference to these names (or some others) as actual extant trees!

- OS
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Don't feel too bad. There are other computer illiterates here. :o

I've been to that site a number of times over the last year and I just now discovered the other handle options. I even ordered a smooth buffalo horn back in February and now that I see the other options am thinking of another custom shop knife.
 
From the ones I own and have seen, I believe that the Walnut, Oak and Koa are "real" wood and not laminates. I'd bet on the Koa and Oak, but maybe not on the Walnut. :confused:
 
The handle on my Dymondwood 110 Master Series appears to be green wood micarta. The process as I understand it involves impregnating the wood with dye and phenolic resin and compression molding it until it kicks over resulting in a bakelite-like thermoset, filled plastic which cannot be remelted like thermoplastic. This is why pan handles and stove knobs are made out of thermosets rather than thermoplastics. Many modern wood handles are plastic stabilized, but I do not know if they go through the thermoset process. They distinguish real ivory from plastic imitation ivory by trying to stick a hot pin into it. The pin penetrates the plastic but not the ivory. A similar test would distinguish between a thermoset and a thermoplastic, but the wood present might interfere with the test. Also you would want to do the test on the backside of the handle.
 
OhShoot said:
Okay, looks like 8 or 9 woods in all then, counting those for both knives. Thanks. List different from the one above in this thread, though.+
- OS
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In that list, I understood Dave110 to be listing not just Custom, but all the real woods he could think of at the time that had been used over the years.
 
real wood or not?
all one has to do is check for lamanations on the side
which may appear as wood grain at times
but i know that
maple
ironwood
koa
maccassar ebony
lignum vitae
and burl's

are solid real wood
walnut may be a real wood as well as oak
i would have to check mine to see if there are any lamanations
maccassar ebony can varry so much it is like two diff woods as also lignum vitae

there was a extreamly limited edition of only 12
made with wood from the floor of the old shop that
HH Buck learned to make knives in
Bucksway had one of thoes rare limited edition custom shop 112's

if the
BCCI would like to have some unique wood for a handle for a bcci issue
- old grouth Americian Chestnut that dates from 1750
this stuff is neat and is 3/4 thick when the old surface is removed
it would be no issue to cut it to thickness and the current maker of the
inlays could cut it to shape easy enught

i have been offered over 40$ a foot for this stuff..
and again if the club and buck would use it
i would donate it and send it in!!!
note any one that has seen my displays cases
that is what they are made of chestnut flooring from 1750
free if the club wants it and buck will do it ...
 
110 Dave said:
real wood or not?
all one has to do is check for lamanations on the sidewhich may appear as wood grain at times
but i know that
maple
ironwood
koa
maccassar ebony
lignum vitae
and burl's

are solid real wood
walnut may be a real wood as well as oak
i would have to check mine to see if there are any lamanations
maccassar ebony can varry so much it is like two diff woods as also lignum vitae
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Dave, if a guy is buying his first one, he has nothing to look at to see if it has laminations. It would really be nice if the website would specify if they are laminates or solid so a first timer (or old timer for that matter) would know what he was actually getting. I don't have a CS knife in the indigo, cherrywood or orange wood, so I wouldn't know if they were real or laminated wood myself.
 
Cherrywood: Definitely has lines on top and bottom that look like lamination.

Walnut: Same

KOA: Looks solid--no lines visible.

That's all I can find right now, but these verify what 110 Dave said.
 
110 Dave said:
if the
BCCI would like to have some unique wood for a handle for a bcci issue
- old grouth Americian Chestnut that dates from 1750
this stuff is neat and is 3/4 thick when the old surface is removed
it would be no issue to cut it to thickness and the current maker of the
inlays could cut it to shape easy enught

i have been offered over 40$ a foot for this stuff..
and again if the club and buck would use it
i would donate it and send it in!!!
note any one that has seen my displays cases
that is what they are made of chestnut flooring from 1750
free if the club wants it and buck will do it ...
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That's an incredibly generous offer, 110Dave.

I would want a couple.

Is the club reading?
 
The front five acres of my place are covered up with Oak trees and Buck is welcome to any or all of them for handle material if they want them. I'd be more than happy to have the messy things gone! :D
 
I have the indigo royalwood custom 110 I bought a year ago. It is indeed laminate. I would bet that all the "+$7.50" wood scales are the same laminate with different stains/finishes. On the website, although hard to really see it well, it looks like the grain structure is the same for all of these.
 
Wouldn't it be nice if Buck could get a piece of one of the 1500 year old Giant Sequoias that fell at Sequoia National Monument and make some special knife handles with it!.

"Sept. 30, a pair of 1,500-year-old giants (middle-aged in sequoia years) crashed to the ground. A German tourist was there at that very moment and kept his composure as the ground must have started to rumble. He recorded the scene as the twin trunks toppled through the forest. (Make sure you check out our video!)"

http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_...-what-happens-when-a-1500-year-old-tree-falls
 
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