What is the best way to sharpen my case trapper and SAK

[needler420]

Eventually want to sharpen a cold steel original night force I found cheap but dulled. Rat in D2 and mora too.
Eventually want to move on to super steels like 154cm.

My only sharpening stone is a smiths 4 inch natural Arkansas stone. I can't get knives sharp with it. Just takes out the chips.

 

[lonestar1979]

Get norton economy stone with sil carbide its cheap and is all you need for razor edge.you can pick up some ceramic sticks or sharpen those knives on bottom of a mug once you reprofile them on sil carbide stone and in few swipes you can touch up those knives.Theres plenty of instruction on youtube.Edge wit norton coarse fine stone will be razor sharp but toothy and is pest edge for my purposes.If you like polished edges buy some fine japanese stones,but in my opinion norton is all you need.You can use sil carbide sandpaper too on hard surface or on magazine or book,it will give you nice edge too but stone is much better.You need to reprofile most knives when theyre new from factory and thin and raise the secondary bevel,then raise burr and take it off.You can most easily do that with sil carbide or diamond stones or belt sander.dmt diamond stones are also very good and they cut easily and also give very nice toothy razor edge.dmt folding sharpeners are best sharpeners for field use and you can find them in coarse,x coarse,fine and super fine.Technique and simple norton stone will get you far in sharpening once you get a hold of it.

 

[jc57]

For my Case / Victorinox blades, I generally go with a Norton IB8 India bench stone (aluminum oxide) - which is a combination coarse/fine, used with light mineral oil. If I want further edge refinement after the fine side of the India, I may go up to an 8" soft/hard Arkansas combo stone or a Spyderco Sharpmaker, then I finish with stropping on leather lightly loaded with green polishing compound.

This is not an expensive set up. Well, the Sharpmaker can add to it - but I had that before I taught myself to freehand adequately. There are also combo-grit aluminum oxide oil stones available at Ace hardware stores. The Norton Economy 6" silicon carbide stones are actually pretty good, but appear to be no longer made.

If you are later planning on sharpening D2, then perhaps the Norton JB8 Crystolon bench stone might be a better bet, though the edge off the "fine" Crystolon is a little coarser than the India, and I like the feel of the India stone better. D2 can be a chore to sharpen without the right abrasives. Silicon Carbide and/or diamonds make it easy, though.

 

[needler420]

Is there a set of Japanese stones or diamond ones that can sharpen them all?

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

For the Case and the Vic, a simple aluminum oxide dual-sided bench stone will get it done. This would be like the Norton India previously mentioned, or any other hardware store dual-sided bench stone (6" or larger). ACE Hardware has some good ones in several sizes, including pocket/portable stones and 6" & 8" bench stones.

The previously-mentioned Norton 'Economy' stone in silicon carbide will work well also. The Fine side of this dual-grit stone will usually be enough for those small, thin blades in simple stainless (or in Case's CV). It's about ~ 320-grit or so. IF you have a Sears store nearby, you might look in their hardware department for a darkly-colored (slate gray/black) 6" stone that looks & performs identically to the Norton Economy (6") stone. I've picked up a couple of those, and they're nicely made and a good buy for the money (maybe ~ $8 or so). They might also carry Norton's Sharpening Stone Oil, which is a very fine & food-safe mineral oil; it works very well with these stones.

That 4" Ark stone you have should be a very good or great maintenance & touch-up stone for those knives, after setting up good edge geometry on the AlOx stones mentioned above. They'll all work best with some mineral oil, to keep the stones from clogging up.

If you're considering diamond hones, a Fine (600) or EF (1200) would be plenty enough for the Case and the Victorinox. Even reprofiling such knives is easy with a 'Fine' diamond hone. They're both capable of leaving great working edges on these blades.

Edited to add:
BTW, if your pics of the Case display happen to be taken at Walmart, you might also look there for a Smith's aluminum oxide dual-grit bench stone (8"), similar to what I mentioned above. I know my local Walmart carries it, and it should likely be at least decent as well. I looked at one there, and it seems like a pretty decently-made stone. Almost bought one, but ended up ordering a Norton India instead.

 

[needler420]

Will naniwa chosera sharpen them including the D2 steel? I don't know what steel the cold steel original night force was.

 

[willc]

Unless you’re D2 knife is a really high Rockwell the Chosera should sharpen it fine.
I just touched up my Rat1 in D2 on my Chosera 1K and it sharpened up just fine.

The only D2 that I ever had problems with was Benchmade.
My Adamas is very slow to sharpen unless diamonds are used. It holds a good edge though so I can’t complain about it.