What is the best way to take pictures?

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My scanner works pretty well, but I can't get very artistic. My digital camera shows the reflection of light even without the flash.

I have seen some great pics here so I thought some of you would be able to help me to find the best method for taking pictures of balisongs to post here.

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Chung San
 
I take pictures of balisongs out door. The best time is early in the morning when the sun is about to rise or after a rain shower. I use a high end digital camera for my pictures.

Armand
http://www.balisong.com
 
Several years ago, I decided I wanted to catalog my collection, so I started taking pictures of them. As I look back on those earlier pictures, they're horrible.

When I started my website, about two years ago, I wanted great pictures. I figured that that wouldn't be hard. I've since discovered how wrong that statement was. When I set out the current format for my site, I even included an "under construction" page where I intended to write an article on this subject. That article is not forthcoming since I am nowhere near ready to write on the subject.

Anyway,

Start with a good camera. You'll want one with A) macro focusing capability. Most cameras are designed to take pictures of people, landscapes, that sort of thing. Knives are very small by comparison. And if you want to really see a tang stamp or lock mechanism, etc., well, that's a whole different league. You need a camera designed for close-up work. The technical term is "macro focusing". Some digitals claim to have this, but it's not done optically, so you loose resolution as you get closer and closer. B) a Tripod mount. Many of the cheaper digitals don't have one. C) A self-timer or cable-release fitting. Basically, a way to trip the shutter without touching (and, therefore, moving) the camera. D) Manual exposure control and manual focus. Even digital cameras have exposure controls, an aperature, a shutter, etc. Great knife pictures depend on careful control of exposure and focus. "Automatic" cameras are almost always set up for snapshots and landscapes which have very different goals than still lifes. And, E) single-lens construction where you compose the picture through the same lens that will ultimately take picture. Reflection problems, especially, are symptomatic of using a view-finder camera. Reflections are about angles. When you take pictures of objects that are five or six feet tall and ten feet away from the camera, an inch or two difference between the viewfinder and the actual lens isn't that critical. But, when you're ten inches away from an object that's five inches across, an inch or two between the viewfinder and the lens can create a dramatic difference between what you think you're taking a picture of and what you are. The 35mm SLR is the classic one-lens camera design. Many of today's digitals with their LCD displays are just as good in this respect.

Get a tripod and use it. You can get a cheap one that will more than adequate for light-duty knife photography with today's smaller cameras for well under $50.

If you don't want to set up an elaborate studio, invest in fancy lights, etc., then just take your pictures outdoors between about 11AM and 1PM on an overcast day. Days like this give you a naturally soft light which is perfect... and free.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com


[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 05-20-2001).]
 
Thanks for the help. I've been thinking about taking pictures of my collection. The tips listed here will be of great help.

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Chung San
 
Sense I have been trying to get photos of butterfly knives on the internet for the last two years, I can add my 2 cents worth.

I started out using a $100 Kodak video conferance camera, that takes fairly good still photos, for the price you pay for them. It is very good in the 9 to 36 inches range. I tried out a Intel video conferance camera and it does real good in the 3 to 8 foot range and does a lot better of a job of taking photos of people. Neither one of these cameras are top of the line, but I think you get good results with them for the money you pay.

Next, I spent a lot of time, trying to find a good digital camera. I ended up with the olympus in the 400 series. They make a very good camera and if your short of money, you can get a 1.3 megapixel, or you can try to get a deal on the 2.1 megapixel. The more megapixels you have the larger the photo is going to be, or the more you can zoom in on your photo to "blow up" a detail. I have seen the 1.3 sell for as low as $250, I got a real good deal on my 2.1 at $350 because usually they sell for about $450.

If you want to be tempted to order a camera off of the internet, be very careful who you do business with. There are little camera stores on just about every street corner, and many of them sell on the internet. They advertise very low prices to get people to buy from them, but there is very little chance they will actually sell the item to you at the low advertised price. Often what they do, is add on a lot of extras, that you may or may not need at a higher than market price for them. Trying to return the extra items and getting a credit on your credit card is usually way more trouble than it's worth. Eventually, you can get a credit, but you have to fill out a lot of paper work, and it takes five to six months. And the little rip off stores know that most people will not bother with all of that.

A really good place to buy is a electonics store like Best Buy or CompUSA. It use to be you could buy it and if you did not like it, they would take it back. They still do allow returns, but now they have a 15% restocking fee. Usually, they will waver the restocking fee if you exchange the item for something else. If you complain a lot by telling them how worthless the item is. You have to be careful buying a open box item from Best. The price is not that much better, and usually they are returned items so there could be something wrong with them.

As for the photos themselves, there are a lot of places on the internet that will teach you how to take a good photo. They say you have to know the rules and you can not break any of them, if you want a good photo. The main thing to remember is that you are photographing light. The camera records the light as it bounces off of the item. Different colors reflect or absorb lite at a different rate. That is the problem with taking a photo of a knife. Usually the handle and the blade reflect lite at a totally different rate. So you can get a good photo of the blade or you can get a good photo of the knife body, but it's very difficult to get both of them good at the same time. Digital camera are much easier to take photos with, because they can work off of a much lower light level.

If you have a 1.3 megapixel camera, that means the camera breaks down your photo into over one million little squares. It then will record a value for them for color and brightness. The information is stored electronicly in memory or written to a disk. A 35 mm or video camera actually etches the photo onto the film and can store more information, but the color quality is not as good as the digital camera. For landscapes or any photo over 12 feet from the camera, the 35 mm are better. Under 12 feet digitals in many ways are better, but the photo is not quite as sharp. Still, for me, you pick up so much color quality, I think digital is better. Also, the advantage to digital is you do not have to pay for a photo, unless you decide to print it out. You can take photos all day long and share them with your friends on the internet. Sense you do not have to pay, you can experment around and take photos you never would take with a camera that you were going to have to pay to have the photos developed. For me, I have had a lot of expermental photos come out very good. Even if two or three in a hundred turn out real good, I am happy. Because it does not cost me a thing to take 100 or even 1000 photos. I can take them tell the camera wears out and not pay a penny. Not tell I decide to print them out.

If you have any questions, let me know, thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
 
If you're in the market for a camera, I get a lot of stuff from http://www.cameraworld.com.

Of course, I don't mail order it since they're right here in Portland. They've got a huge selection of not just cameras but everything you need, professional lights, backdrops, everything, and it's first-rate pro gear. This is not a little mom-and-pop .com startup. Camera World has been a major retail and mail-order supplier to professional photographers for decades. They're a well-respected name. Their prices are usually very competitive, their service is great, and they don't try to jack you around. And, if you've got any problems with 'em, let me know and I'll go down and pound on a desk for you.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
I allready have the Olympus 450 1.3 Megapixel Digital Camera. I've had it a little over a year now. It does have the timer feature and the mount for the tripod. This is great because my tripod off of my video camera will fit it(I have allready checked). I really understand what you mean by using a tripod though. Every time my hands tremble just a little the whole picture is ruined.

I'll be experimenting over the long weekend ahead. I'll post a couple of pictures so that you can tell me what you think.

Thanks,

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Chung San
 
>>). I really understand what you mean by using a tripod though. Every time my hands tremble just a little the whole picture is ruined.

I do not use a tripod. You need to shoot a photo, just the way you shoot a gun. You draw your breath in and hold it, and try to remain as steady as you can, long enough to shoot the photo. If you can, find something solid to steady yourself on. Learn up against a wall or a branch of a tree or something. If you can sit down, rest your elbows on your knees. If you are standing then pull your elbows in to your ribs to keep yourself steady.

I have a sharpshooter metal for being able to hit the target at 300 yards with a rifle. I guess it's the same thing to be able to be a sharp shooter with a camera.
 
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