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What is the top-selling Spyder? And my guess is . . .
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Most months it's the Delica with the fully serrated version being the most popular. The Endura is usually 2nd unless military orders are in that month, then the Endura is top seller.
The Endura is a common issue for military use. It's light, a powerful cutter, tough and very sharp. Edgeholding competitive with most anything around.
Dragonfly, Rescue, Ladybug, Native and Police are usually up there.
Occsionally a custom collaboration will be in the "top 10" when first released.
sal
The Endura is a common issue for military use. It's light, a powerful cutter, tough and very sharp. Edgeholding competitive with most anything around.
Dragonfly, Rescue, Ladybug, Native and Police are usually up there.
Occsionally a custom collaboration will be in the "top 10" when first released.
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The Endura is the most common issue for the military? Hmm...sort of an irony that it isn't our beloved C36
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Well, that was too easy. (I thought I was going to win something.)
Let's try the other way around: the least popular Spyder!!! My guess is:
The very first Jess Horn model!! (C??)
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The very first Jess Horn model!! (C??)
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Dexter - The C36 is expensive for the Military. We're just pleased that our guys (& gals) have access to a "real" knife, that cuts well, is safe and reliable.
SJC - By most popular, I assumed you meant sells the best? Most popular could also be the most desirable. Could the most desirable not be the most popular because it is expensive and not as many ELU can justify the cost or have the expendible income?
If the minimum sales is the issue, irregardless of cost, then I would have to say that the models that we made our minumum of 1,200 pcs in a run and didn't repeat the run. The early Jess horn was one of many, (that for different reasons) only survived one run. (Some models were discontinued simply because we were having cash flow problems at the time and couldn't handle the extra inventory). However, The first Horn was a $400+ production knife and out of reach for many. Cheap for a Jess Horn, but not for the general public. It was a major lesson for both Spyderco and Jess. We were able to match Jess's quality (in production - no simple feat), but the market wouldn't pay the price. That is why we had Jess redesign the "Horn" model, first in Micarta, then in Fiberglass Reinforced Nylon Resin (FRNR).
I think the least popular variation for the general ELU was the white Rescue. Made for the Canadian Fire Dept.
True popularity would have to be modified by price. There is a definite bell curve or "triangle" that governs volume by price. The thresholds seem to be at (for quality knives) $50 - $100 - $150 - $200.
These thresholds are modified when you add in Chinese & Taiwan made pcs because of the lower dollar conversion rate. I would personally take issue with "long term" quality of performance, but I may stand alone in that regards.
For Spyderco, the product is produced with good service for at least 5 years as a main value. Many products are produced to show well at "point of purchase", even past some short term tests. But the real test includes time. Spyderco's reputation is what it is because we have been making products to perform in the test of time. Not just point of purchase.
Collectors really don't test knives to their maximum ability as does the person that works with their knives on a daily basis. It is these ELU that we design for.
Many of the collaborations haved been designed with the collector in mind, because custom makers most offten sell to collectors. But any of the "in house" Spyderco designs were penned with function as the chief and only influential ingredient. Our products will hold their own with any in this regard. Though they are often referred to as "ugly" because of the function aspect.
With this in mind, "Most popular" over the long haul would have to be the Police Model. Still strong after 14 years in service and more than 10 refinements over those years. We've had a Police Model stop a 9mm slug and save an officers leg. We had a Police Model hold up a container load (over 20 ton) in the open position long enough for the crewman to pull his hand out. We had a Police Model cut through an underwater branch to save a trapped Kayaker's life. This Tells us that we're doing something right. Not the Sales totals or the bottom line (in fact in that area, we still have a lot to learm) Hope this helps.
sal
SJC - By most popular, I assumed you meant sells the best? Most popular could also be the most desirable. Could the most desirable not be the most popular because it is expensive and not as many ELU can justify the cost or have the expendible income?
If the minimum sales is the issue, irregardless of cost, then I would have to say that the models that we made our minumum of 1,200 pcs in a run and didn't repeat the run. The early Jess horn was one of many, (that for different reasons) only survived one run. (Some models were discontinued simply because we were having cash flow problems at the time and couldn't handle the extra inventory). However, The first Horn was a $400+ production knife and out of reach for many. Cheap for a Jess Horn, but not for the general public. It was a major lesson for both Spyderco and Jess. We were able to match Jess's quality (in production - no simple feat), but the market wouldn't pay the price. That is why we had Jess redesign the "Horn" model, first in Micarta, then in Fiberglass Reinforced Nylon Resin (FRNR).
I think the least popular variation for the general ELU was the white Rescue. Made for the Canadian Fire Dept.
True popularity would have to be modified by price. There is a definite bell curve or "triangle" that governs volume by price. The thresholds seem to be at (for quality knives) $50 - $100 - $150 - $200.
These thresholds are modified when you add in Chinese & Taiwan made pcs because of the lower dollar conversion rate. I would personally take issue with "long term" quality of performance, but I may stand alone in that regards.
For Spyderco, the product is produced with good service for at least 5 years as a main value. Many products are produced to show well at "point of purchase", even past some short term tests. But the real test includes time. Spyderco's reputation is what it is because we have been making products to perform in the test of time. Not just point of purchase.
Collectors really don't test knives to their maximum ability as does the person that works with their knives on a daily basis. It is these ELU that we design for.
Many of the collaborations haved been designed with the collector in mind, because custom makers most offten sell to collectors. But any of the "in house" Spyderco designs were penned with function as the chief and only influential ingredient. Our products will hold their own with any in this regard. Though they are often referred to as "ugly" because of the function aspect.
With this in mind, "Most popular" over the long haul would have to be the Police Model. Still strong after 14 years in service and more than 10 refinements over those years. We've had a Police Model stop a 9mm slug and save an officers leg. We had a Police Model hold up a container load (over 20 ton) in the open position long enough for the crewman to pull his hand out. We had a Police Model cut through an underwater branch to save a trapped Kayaker's life. This Tells us that we're doing something right. Not the Sales totals or the bottom line (in fact in that area, we still have a lot to learm) Hope this helps.
sal
Hah! Show me a company commander who authorizes an IMPACT purchase of pocket knives, and I'll show you a beautiful woman who also happens to be a rock climber, own a triumph TR6, shoot a Colt Delta 10mm, has a outstanding collection of charcoal sketches, and is a family practice physician. Okay, a round about way of saying they don't exist.
No, there are some units that do issue knives, but they are FEW and FAR between and aren't normal SF units. More like folks who wear civies every day.
But, Spyderco knives are the most prevelent cutting tool one will see in the Army. AFFEES has done a good job of putting them in nearly all their stores, and discounting them somewhat. I can't remember the number of 50/50 Enduras I bought at the PX, either broke them, lost them, or gave them away.
Nothing gets me going faster than people who claim their knives are issue items. They are personal purchase! But I suppose the claim helps sales. Very few specialized blades are issue to a few folks, if they are in good with supply.
Sorry for the rant. Guess I am bummed about never getting a few knife from supply.
Other than a leatherman.
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No, there are some units that do issue knives, but they are FEW and FAR between and aren't normal SF units. More like folks who wear civies every day.
But, Spyderco knives are the most prevelent cutting tool one will see in the Army. AFFEES has done a good job of putting them in nearly all their stores, and discounting them somewhat. I can't remember the number of 50/50 Enduras I bought at the PX, either broke them, lost them, or gave them away.
Nothing gets me going faster than people who claim their knives are issue items. They are personal purchase! But I suppose the claim helps sales. Very few specialized blades are issue to a few folks, if they are in good with supply.
Sorry for the rant. Guess I am bummed about never getting a few knife from supply.
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chrisJohn - Sorry to offend. Didn't mean that they were necessarily Issued by the Govt as a rifle. The guys I spoke with in Honolulu said "they (Enduras) were pretty much standard issue". I believe he (& I) meant this in a more loose term, to mean that just about every one had one. Sorry for the confusion.
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Thanks for the response Sal! Nothing like have a CEO of a major knife compnay on hand to answer questions.
The comment about claiming "issue" status was not aimed at Spyderco knives at all, but other companies/makers who seem to tout such untruths as a major bruttess of their sales approach.
When I was in most everyone I knew who was active duty carried a Delica under the flap that covers the buttons on the BDU blouse, and sometimes a few more.
I plead guilty to that one.
The comment about claiming "issue" status was not aimed at Spyderco knives at all, but other companies/makers who seem to tout such untruths as a major bruttess of their sales approach.
When I was in most everyone I knew who was active duty carried a Delica under the flap that covers the buttons on the BDU blouse, and sometimes a few more.
chrisjohn,
my OIC for my shop authorized procurement of 50 enduras for use in survival vests for our aviators. Reason we didn't order 50 Militaries is the cost would be too much (as much as I tried to change their minds). These knives are considered the new standard for aviation pockets knives for the Marine Corps. If the price of Militaries was dropped some, we would order some to test.
They are not official issue (yet) they very well could be. I think you could show me that beautiful woman now.
PR
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my OIC for my shop authorized procurement of 50 enduras for use in survival vests for our aviators. Reason we didn't order 50 Militaries is the cost would be too much (as much as I tried to change their minds). These knives are considered the new standard for aviation pockets knives for the Marine Corps. If the price of Militaries was dropped some, we would order some to test.
They are not official issue (yet) they very well could be. I think you could show me that beautiful woman now.
PR
[This message has been edited by prigger (edited 15 February 1999).]