What should we know ?

[pitdog]

What do you consider the essentials of survival, what should we all be able to do ?

I've had a few beers so forgive my spelling etc but this is a rough idea of what I think we should be able to do ~

Find at least two natural means of cordage.

Be able to make fire with a ferro-rod and at least two types of natural tinder.

Be able to make at least two traps using cordage and two without. ( Most likely two spring snare type traps and two deadfalls ).

Be able to make a one stick fire.

Be able to make at least two types of natural shelter.

Be able to find True North from two natural sources.


That's a starter, let's hear what y'all think !!!

 

[PayetteRucker]

64-4, cover to cover-that's what I want to know. I also want beer. I had an appointment with my gastrointerologist today and haven't had any kind of alcohol since Christmas Day, no food in the last 48 hours Ugh, a good porter or a nutbrown...

 

[stewey1]

What do you consider the essentials of survival, what should we all be able to do ?

I've had a few beers so forgive my spelling etc but this is a rough idea of what I think we should be able to do ~

Find at least two natural means of cordage.

Be able to make fire with a ferro-rod and at least two types of natural tinder.

Be able to make at least two traps using cordage and two without. ( Most likely two spring snare type traps and two deadfalls ).

Be able to make a one stick fire.

Be able to make at least two types of natural shelter.

Be able to find True North from two natural sources.


That's a starter, let's hear what y'all think !!![/QUote

I think being able to maintain tools in the field is a good skill,
Being able to dress game and check internal organs for disease,
Being able to tie fishing knots and rig up different line set ups for targeting different types of fish,
having a basic knowledge of first aid,
Being reasonably fit physically,
Being able to find and purify water, atleast a couple of methods whether filtering, distilling etc,

excuse my spelling also, the days been hot and now the beers are going down nicely, cheers Pit

 

[Fonly]

What do you consider the essentials of survival, what should we all be able to do ?

Be able to make fire with a ferro-rod and at least two types of natural tinder.

Be able to make at least two traps using cordage and two without. Most likely two spring snare type traps and two dead falls

Be able to make a one stick fire.

Be able to make at least two types of natural shelter.

Be able to find True North from two natural sources.

being able to maintain tools in the field is a good skill,

Being able to dress game and check internal organs for disease,

Being able to tie fishing knots and rig up different line set ups for targeting different types of fish,

having a basic knowledge of first aid,

Being reasonably fit physically,

Being able to find and purify water, at least a couple of methods whether filtering, distilling etc,

add to that, good so far...

- Basic understanding of SAR efforts (what they will be looking for)
- Our equipment, inside and out, its limits and ours
- how to set-up trip plans (knowing what to do when an emergency arises)
- our environment, current and forecasted weather.


thats my bit, im sure there will be more.

Everyone's drinking tonight, hmph...

 

[stewey1]

excellent points Fonly, especially the bit on SAR efforts, I personally need to put in a bit more effort on thr trip plan side of things, just saying see you later and I will be back in a week to the missus doesnt really cut it!!!

I think an EPERB would be a good investment

 

[Fonly]

excellent points Fonly, especially the bit on SAR efforts, I personally need to put in a bit more effort on thr trip plan side of things, just saying see you later and I will be back in a week to the missus doesnt really cut it!!!

I think an EPERB would be a good investment

thats just it, I see it all the time when on a call out, we get " well, he went hunting, I assume he went to the normal spot, but he didn't say..."

Great, now our probable area of detection is shot to shit until can find a vehicle, or some sign.

A trip plan or an ERP (emergency response plan) saves sooooo much time. Have to admit though, we've done a lot of preventative SAR, and my god it has made a difference, but we still get that odd person.

Really, were looking for shiny stuff and whistle blows, tracks, blood and clothing are just a bonus.

 

[Thomas Linton]

1. Know how to keep thinking straight in a crisis where you are pretty much on your own - at least at first.
2. Know how to adapt to new, or newly discovered, realities.
3. Know how to improvise to make the most of what you have.
4. Know that you have skills, knowledge, and abilities that can help you surmount the crisis. That means, in a wilderness survival situation, knowing that you can keep at 98.6 (shelter/fire), can signal, can navigate, can purify water, can get essential rest, can deal with natural risks, can deal with first aid problems, and can, if required, gather wild food or do without it.
5. Be determined to survive.

Much of this has value far from the wilderness and in other sorts of emergencies in your life.

If you prepared in advance, left word with responsible parties, and have gear that fits the place and season, all will go better. But without the proper thoughts, attitudes, and emotions, survival is much harder and less likely.

 

[stewey1]

thats just it, I see it all the time when on a call out, we get " well, he went hunting, I assume he went to the normal spot, but he didn't say..."

Great, now our probable area of detection is shot to shit until can find a vehicle, or some sign.

A trip plan or an ERP (emergency response plan) saves sooooo much time. Have to admit though, we've done a lot of preventative SAR, and my god it has made a difference, but we still get that odd person.

Really, were looking for shiny stuff and whistle blows, tracks, blood and clothing are just a bonus.

I think the trip planning point being bought up and discussed is excellent and it really should be disscussed more often. We spend alot of time discussing gear and skills etc and I think this point does get over looked me being a prime example. you can have all the best gear and skills in the world but if you take a fall and seriously injure yourself like broken legs/servere trauma 6 days into a 2 week hike your up the creek big time and SAR is going to be your best bet of getting out alive. I would even venture to say having a plan is as important if not more so than packing all the ultimate gear. The bottom line is no matter how experienced you are or think you are shit happens to the best of us.

Oh god Im hijacking Pits thread, time for a drink of water

 

[upnorth]

What do you consider the essentials of survival, what should we all be able to do ?

I've had a few beers so forgive my spelling etc but this is a rough idea of what I think we should be able to do ~

Find at least two natural means of cordage.

Be able to make fire with a ferro-rod and at least two types of natural tinder.

Be able to make at least two traps using cordage and two without. ( Most likely two spring snare type traps and two deadfalls ).

Be able to make a one stick fire.

Be able to make at least two types of natural shelter.

Be able to find True North from two natural sources.


That's a starter, let's hear what y'all think !!!

I'd say that I only came out about 50-60% on that list. Not a good thing.

 

[upnorth]

add to that, good so far...

- Basic understanding of SAR efforts (what they will be looking for)
- Our equipment, inside and out, its limits and ours
- how to set-up trip plans (knowing what to do when an emergency arises)
- our environment, current and forecasted weather.


thats my bit, im sure there will be more.

Everyone's drinking tonight, hmph...

I came out a little better on this list as I used to really watch my butt when going ice fishing. I kept a hawk eye on forecasts, told the warden exactly were I was going, and had emerg. equip. in trunk. Most times I was with someone else and that helped also. My car trunk is VERY well equiped right now. I take winter seriously.

 

[Rockywolf]

How to build a fire from available materials, kit included.
Know your gear!
Keep your head on straight.
Build a basic shelter.
How to purify water.
Basic first aid for you and/or others.

 

[neeman]

First
ABC of First Aid
Can't rescue a dead person

I was a senior sergeant in a SAR unit
I was my duty to teach the new folk in the unit

It was more about their head set
To think as rescuers
How did the situation happen
How to solve the problem
The drive to save or be saved

 

[PeterPHWS]

Carrying and knowing how to make and use a Heliograph is often overlooked and neglected as a skill ... but nothing works better and quicker at signalling ... we used them on Jungle training in the Military for heli-evac and they are incredible for aerial searches ... also used them in the Alps for Mountain Rescue ... anyone who has been part of a search party will tell you that these devices are amazing for their "recognition" ability. If you can learn morse code for an SOS and how to signal with one ... this means you can be pro active in getting help rather than re-active to a search party who are looking for you ... particularly good when out at sea ... I use one often when teaching scuba diving for when divers surface away from the pick up boat ... in a choppy sea divers are hard to spot.