What the Hell is a Thrust Bearing!!

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Hi guys,
Truth be told every bearing system in a knife you've ever seen from Spydercos to High end
Full custom Shirogorovs are thrust bearings! Thrust bearing is another name for an axial bearing. It is the type of bearing that predominantly supports axial loads like between a blade and frame of a knife. A thrust (axial) bearing can be either a ball bearing or a roller bearing so the shape of the bearing has nothing to do with it. I have seen supposedly learned writers say that a knife is equipped with thrust bearings, rather then ball bearings....totally erroneous!
The other type of bearing is a radial bearing...that would be a bearing between the pivot pin and the hole in the blade tang and supports radial loads. It, also, can be either a ball or a roller.
Rollers are better in the they allow movement in one direction, whereas a ball can go in any direction. So in a knife pivot, a ball bearing will assist roll with a movement in or out against the pivot, where a roller will not. with greater surface area a roller is also more supportive and distributes loads better. This also means more drag and slower action. A roller also has to deal with different speeds from the inner to outer part since the distance it has to travel is more as you radiate out from the pin. But since it is solid it cannot do that so slippage will occur, whereas in a ball it will not.
 
Also, with ball bearings having a lesser contact area (compared to roller) it is less likely that any grit will be felt if any contaminants end up in the pivot.
Thus allowing for a better "feeling" knife while it may be to a lesser (or higher) standard.
 
He accidentally even the whole thing!

Fixed it for ya!
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On topic, Even still, I'm waiting for him to reply to my post about grit and contaminants being more readily noticeable in a bearing system that has a wider surface area. Furthermore causing finicky knife owners to say that the knife is improperly designed because a little grit ruins the knife and potentially the bearings, races, et al...
 
Also, with ball bearings having a lesser contact area (compared to roller) it is less likely that any grit will be felt if any contaminants end up in the pivot.
Thus allowing for a better "feeling" knife while it may be to a lesser (or higher) standard.
Excellent point!
 
Excellent point!
So which do you think is better?

You seem to spout many reasons why a roller is better than a ball for knife pivots, but say that I have an excellent point.

Either you are very open minded, or indecisive.
Knowing which will help me make up my mind as to how serious I should take your responses and OP.
 
On topic, Even still, I'm waiting for him to reply to my post about grit and contaminants being more readily noticeable in a bearing system that has a wider surface area. Furthermore causing finicky knife owners to say that the knife is improperly designed because a little grit ruins the knife and potentially the bearings, races, et al...

I've found that bearing systems with a milled channel (i.e. IKBS) tend to clog up if exposed to excess dust, grit, etc.. Never had that with washers. However, the perforated washers on my 'Zaan allowed the perforations to be exposed, which caused the same problem. Although, this didn't happen on my 21.

For me, it all depends on the design. Both bearings and washers are great when done properly.
 
I've found that bearing systems with a milled channel (i.e. IKBS) tend to clog up if exposed to excess dust, grit, etc.. Never had that with washers. However, the perforated washers on my 'Zaan allowed the perforations to be exposed, which caused the same problem. Although, this didn't happen on my 21.

For me, it all depends on the design. Both bearings and washers are great when done properly.

To prove that I am capable of on topic: this.:thumbsup:
 
So which do you think is better?

You seem to spout many reasons why a roller is better than a ball for knife pivots, but say that I have an excellent point.

Either you are very open minded, or indecisive.
Knowing which will help me make up my mind as to how serious I should take your responses and OP.
I was really addressing a few differences and how there is a belief out there that thrust bearings mean roller bearings, r that it means anything different than a regular ball bearing system in any knife.
I would take either one, but if it was my choice I would go for Ball bearings
 
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