What type of sharpening progression? 400 grit/ 1k/ 5k/10k green compound?

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DavidL41

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Im looking to get just one combination stone. I have green compound already and a rough stone.

Which single combination stone would you choose in the 50 dollar range.
 
I recently acquired a soft white Arkansas and a black Arkansas, made by pinnacle. Its even got a nice wood box. Check it out. It does very very well.
 
DavidL41 said:
Im looking to get just one combination stone. I have green compound already and a rough stone.

Which single combination stone would you choose in the 50 dollar range.
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If it has to be one combination stone, I'd go with a Norton India stone. I have gone to a strop right off the fine side of a broken-in India stone and it produces an edge with very good qualities. The compound was Flexcut Gold.

Many waterstones come in 1k/6k or 1k/8k combinations (again, Norton comes to mind) - are generally a bit more than $50 but under $100. There is a bit of translation, 1k Japanese standard is close to 500 grit ANSI, 6k is closer to 1500 grit. See the sticky for a better idea.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/856708-The-Grand-Unified-Grit-Chart
 
is ANSI a norton india stone?

What are the differences between the way waterstone, india stone, diamond stone, Arkansan or sandpaper cuts. For 50 bucks which can get me the best bang for the buck combination stone.

Which works better for the stainless rc60 CPM154CM steel that I have to get a finely polished blade and remove as little metal as possible. My knife has a blade small like a paring knife and it has to be sharpened frequently. Id like it to last at least 3 years.
 
The stone I was talking about is definitely a deal. There around 45,very good stones u should look it up.
 
its one of the contenders for sure. The thing is I'm a little OCD about my tools and equipment. If It doesnt perform as good as I think it should I will go and buy another one, until I find the right one which could end up costing a lot.
 
I don't understand your title, it does not seem to relate to the thread.

What rough stone do you have?
Where did you get the "green compound"?
What is your expectation of this new stone? (What do YOU need the stone to do)
 
I have a standard combination stone that you find in home depot. I think its around 200 grit and 100 grit.
Green compound I got online. I can't judge the quality because I can't compare it to anything. Doesnt spread too easily on leather.

Im trying to get just a single combination stone to just get my convex blade really, sharp and just as importantly take off little amount of material. Im thinking 1k/5k japanese king brand, norton india combination, arkansas stone as the contenders.

what progression works best for something that wont need reprofiling. I read 1k/5k and 12k then strop. Also read a lot of other progressions with different grits.
 
If you're just trying to buy one, a 1k/5k will do fine pre stropping. A 1k waterstone is plenty enough to sharpen an edge that's not completely blunt or damaged. I've also gone straight from a soft arkansas (around 600 grit) to a strop. It worked, but not as well as a full progression. It could be made up for by extra stropping though. Just polish until most of the scratch pattern is gone. Imo I would never stop short of a 4k waterstone, the edge just isn't sharp or refined enough, and 4k is the absolute maximum coarseness I'd be willing to accept.

I think personally fine India is too rough. Arkansas soft/white hard would he similar to a 4000/8000 waterstone in my experience, but arkansas is very slow cutting and if any of your knives are made of modern supersteel (not 420 hc, alphabet soup, or 440 series or plain ole carbon) you'll have a rough time with them.
 
Splurge a little and get the Shapton Pro 1k and 5k, you will be happy you did. I wouldn't recommend King stones, they are not worth it. I would also recommend forgetting about grits beyond 5k at this time and work on getting the most from the stones you have/will be getting. Without stropping a edge from a 5k-6k stone should easily shave hair and push cut news print. I understand the excitement of seeing high grit stones and thinking it will yield the sharpest edge, but it doesn't.

Sharpness is not about how fine the edge is but how well the edge was formed. a edge can be sharp at 120 grit or 120,000 grit but both will seem dull if the apex is not properly formed and the burr not removed.
 
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