whats the best steel for a folder?

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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a new pocket knife. I currently have an Arthur Wright lambsfoot. To be honest it's served me well, but sometimes I feel it doesn't hold its edge. So I'm looking for something a bit better quality. I've become confused though with all the different steels. I've seen the Enzo pk70 with s30v steel which looks good and is UK legal. But I've also seen good reviews for vg 10. D2 steel although old still seems to perform well.

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome!

Thanks Jim
 
Take your pick, lots of great blade steels out there.

I like s30v, cpm m4, vg10, and 154cm personally. However for my needs just plain ol carbon steel does most everything I need.

You need to decide what you need from your knife and then pick the steel best for that application.

154cm seems to be a great all around steel that's affordable. My BM Griptillian has been a great little carry knife in this steel.

There is no end to the amount of research you could do on the various steels and their qualities. You are going to get a lot opinions on this matter. Truth is I think the steel choice for most people is way over thought. My Victorinox and Moras are far from super steels and work just fine for me.
 
Your answers are going to be pretty opinionated and so much can depend on heat treat, but I'll offer the four I've ended up working with and liking most over the years. Keep in mind I have not lived in a "rust inducive" climate. In no certain order:

D-2 -- Not as rust prone as people seem to think; tough and holds an edge. One of my favorites. Can be tough to sharpen though.
S30V -- Good edge retention but harder to sharpen; seems very corrosion resistant.
154CM -- I've always had good luck with it; holds an edge well and relatively inexpensive.
VG-10 -- Good strength, edge retention; I like the Rockwells, and, I'll just say, "....easier to sharpen in reality than it should be based on it's qualities on paper."

And of course a good 1095 because a lot of my knifelife has been outdoor.

I have "lesser" and "better" steels but these seem to be the ones I've gravitated to.
 
There's no right answer here, just to warn you, but I'll give you a few of my favorites.
M390 - Great edge retention, more than good enough toughness, a bit harder to sharpen.
S35VN - Really nice all around stainless.
Aogami Super Blue - Can hold really extreme edge geometry better than most of the carbide monsters in my experience.
CTS-BD1 - Very easy to get screaming sharp, fantastic initial edge stability, it goes dull fast, but is just fun to cut with.
S110V - Just remarkable edge retention. If you hate sharpening, get this and send it out every 6 months and that will keep it plenty sharp.
 
There's no right answer here, just to warn you, but I'll give you a few of my favorites.
M390 - Great edge retention, more than good enough toughness, a bit harder to sharpen.
S35VN - Really nice all around stainless.
Aogami Super Blue - Can hold really extreme edge geometry better than most of the carbide monsters in my experience.
CTS-BD1 - Very easy to get screaming sharp, fantastic initial edge stability, it goes dull fast, but is just fun to cut with.
S110V - Just remarkable edge retention. If you hate sharpening, get this and send it out every 6 months and that will keep it plenty sharp.


This guy gets it. S110v is awesome for edge retention
 
Bang for buck, my favorite steel is S30V. Excellent edge retention and corrosion resistance. Great all-around steel. 154CM is a very similar steel, a little less high-end and a bit cheaper.
 
Copper of course! That way no matter what you can always scrap it for some of your money back.
I would say the biggest factor in all this is what are your sharpening skills? If non existent or very little then I'd stay away from the harder stuff like d2. They will be a pain to learn on. Another factor for me will be is the quality of steel proportionate to the price point of the knife? I will use just about anything as long as the price/steel mesh up.
 
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a new pocket knife. I currently have an Arthur Wright lambsfoot. To be honest it's served me well, but sometimes I feel it doesn't hold its edge. So I'm looking for something a bit better quality. I've become confused though with all the different steels. I've seen the Enzo pk70 with s30v steel which looks good and is UK legal. But I've also seen good reviews for vg 10. D2 steel although old still seems to perform well.

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome!

Thanks Jim
THE Enzo PK70 in S30v is a really good knife for the money.The fit and finish on the PK70 is most excellent.S30V steel is excellent and holds an edge really well for almost every use you would encounter everyday.Buy with confidence and enjoy the Enzo.I prefer S30V to both D2 and VG10.I consider S30v the benchmark that I personally judge all stainless steels against.
 
Fallkniven makes a few folders in 2 excellent steels: 3G hrc 62 & Laminated Cobalt (lam co) hrc 60.
Have a look
 
The absolute best steel is the one you find comfortable. You have to find your balance between edge retention and ease of sharpening. Personally I like a slightly softer steel for at work so I can do touch ups with just a few swipes on the sharpmaker. I find the vg-10 on the delica perfect for this and it has become my edc. Until you find the steel that works best for you keep having fun trying new ones :D
 
Lots of misinformation there. D2 isn't inherently harder than other steels. You don't have to be a master sharpener to put a fine edge on it. The charts are misleading or completely wrong.

Get a good sharpening setup. Learn that first. Then try a decent knife with whatever steel you want. Learn what you like and don't like. Then try another steel. Compare. Welcome to the hobby.
 
The answer is "It depends."

"That's a Bingo! "

I can shave with my BK24! Woohoo! I am now a Master Sharpener, I can't wait to tell my friends!

Some information in that link is usable, but some isn't.

Had to edit since I was essentially staying what you were asking us to offer up.

What is the price range you wouldd be comfortable in?
Do you want stainless or are you OK with a carbon steel?
What is your skill level with sharpening?
Does the knife have to be office or sheeple friendly?

Start with those, you/we should have an idea as to where to look when you have satisfactory answers for them.
 
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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a new pocket knife. I currently have an Arthur Wright lambsfoot. To be honest it's served me well, but sometimes I feel it doesn't hold its edge. So I'm looking for something a bit better quality. I've become confused though with all the different steels. I've seen the Enzo pk70 with s30v steel which looks good and is UK legal. But I've also seen good reviews for vg 10. D2 steel although old still seems to perform well.

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome!

Thanks Jim

You're going to hear that the best steels are whatever ZT, Spyderco, or Benchmade have in their lineup. The reason? That's all most people have experience with, me included. I can't offer what the best steel is for a folder. That's likely some obscure steel in some obscure knife by some obscure maker in some obscure country and we won't hear about this steel for another 10 years.

So, ask what the most popular steels are in the lineups of ZT, Benchmade, and Spyderco. Then you'll get questioned as to what you want your knife to do. Then you'll get a bunch of talk about geometry and heat treat.

Basically, go to a well known company that offers a good warranty, find a knife that piques your interest in your price range, and buy it. Chances are you will enjoy the knife. If you don't, then they'll replace it if something is wrong with it. If you don't like it and something isn't wrong with the knife, then sell it and buy something else. You'll eventually find what you want.

Or, of course, you can start down the rabbit hole and find the specific steel that matches your own specific needs and won't need to ask other people what the best steels are. It'll take a couple of months of reading and familiarizing yourself with what's out there and to get a basic grasp of what the hell people are talking about. At that point you'll stop asking what the best steels are and you'll start asking why this company uses this specific steel with this specific heat treat and this specific geometry. At which point you'll be in the same place as most of the rest of us. You'll have several bad knives, several good knives, and at least one knife you keep finding yourself picking up when you need a knife. Whatever steel that is, that's the best steel for you at that time because it's in the knife you like the most at that time. And that's what matters.

When you can start, on your own, identifying your own specific needs in varying types of knives, then you'll be in a position to learn what you need to address those needs, but then you won't need us because you'll know basically where to look on your own.

For me, corrosion resistance and edge retention in a 3.5 inch long blade ground to be a slicer in a folder with a reliable but not necessarily strong locking mechanism and grippy handles is what I need in a folder. In a fixed blade, something around 4.25 inches in about a .200 inch thick blade where impact and lateral toughness is the priority and edge retention is secondary where corrosion resistance doesn't matter too much is what I need. Now that I'm able to identify what I need for both general purpose knives that I'll have with me most of the time, I can narrow my search based on my priorities. If I need a long, very thin fixed blade with high corrosion and wear resistance, I can find something. And that's the process.
 
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Listen to bodog, he has it summed up nicely right there. A bit long, but well worth the time.
 
What your budget allows you to have will be the best steel for you. They all have their good and bad points.
 
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. As a bit of backround I work outdoors in a damp climate. I need my knife for all the usual stuff, cutting string, plastic, cardboard, screwdriver! I also need it for skinning occasonally. As you might know the law here for knives is quite strict so it would be better if it did not lock and has a blade less than 3 inches. I'm reasonably good at sharpening, I have an ancient slate stone that I use with a bit of oil, but if I was getting a better knife I would probably get some water stones.

For a really good knife I don't mind saving up, but I would say I'm looking to spend around $200.
 
GEC has some nice slip joints in stainless I believe. They also might have one with the screw driver/cap lifter. I do not condone the use of a blade as a screw driver. That is one of the fastest ways to break off the tip, and no steel that I'm aware of is designed for that kind of abuse. What about fixed blades?
 
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. As a bit of backround I work outdoors in a damp climate. I need my knife for all the usual stuff, cutting string, plastic, cardboard, screwdriver! I also need it for skinning occasonally. As you might know the law here for knives is quite strict so it would be better if it did not lock and has a blade less than 3 inches. I'm reasonably good at sharpening, I have an ancient slate stone that I use with a bit of oil, but if I was getting a better knife I would probably get some water stones.

For a really good knife I don't mind saving up, but I would say I'm looking to spend around $200.

Please don't use a 200 dollar knife as a screwdriver.
If you intend to use your knife for that purpose, then I suggest getting a handful of cheaper ones instead of one very expensive one. The reason being you will likely mess up the tip on ANY knife using it as a screwdriver, so you're better off at least having a few spares on hand.
 
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