whats the correct pattern for these...

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Pens? Except for the whittler, even though it's small.Some pens have the blades on one side. these are on both ends.Regular pen? Top one in pearl is a Senetor,right?


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Just for kicks, name the brands if you can make them out in the pic by their looks.
 
Usually a pen knife in "modern" knives (say post WWI) is considered to be a small knife with a blade at each end, as compared to a jack which has both blades at one end.

Top left - pearl senator - could be a Robeson but very common style so could be many different manufacturers.

Below that - serpentine pen (or could be considered a Wharncliffe handle frame) - based on those handles my guess would be Camillus or Boker USA, or a contract knife made by one of those two firms (Valley Forge or Hibbard Spencer Bartlett possibly).

Next down - black handled serpentine (or Wharnciffe) pen, definitely Schrade

Top right - senator pen with tip bolsters, celluloid handle, Remington used that handle but does not look like a Remington to me, could be an Ulster based on the style of the long pull on the main blade.

Below that - sleeveboard pen, stag handle, looks like an English knife to me (IXL?).

Last one - sleeveboard whittler with wood handles - looks like New York Knife, maybe Ulster.
 
It gets a bit confusing when you have a Wharncliffe handle shape (often referred to as a "die" - as in a Wharncliffe die) without the Wharncliffe main blade.

BTW, senators are always equal end pens with blades at each end with rounded bolsters, with the body between the bolsters having almost straight sides. The main blade is almost always a spear.

To confuse things a bit, a two bladed congress pattern (with a blade at each end) is sometimes called a senate pattern. :)

Knifeaholic did very well on who the makers might be (better than I would have), so I'll leave it at that.
 
Usually a pen knife in "modern" knives (say post WWI) is considered to be a small knife with a blade at each end, as compared to a jack which has both blades at one end.

Top left - pearl senator - could be a Robeson but very common style so could be many different manufacturers.

Below that - serpentine pen (or could be considered a Wharncliffe handle frame) - based on those handles my guess would be Camillus or Boker USA, or a contract knife made by one of those two firms (Valley Forge or Hibbard Spencer Bartlett possibly).

Next down - black handled serpentine (or Wharnciffe) pen, definitely Schrade

Top right - senator pen with tip bolsters, celluloid handle, Remington used that handle but does not look like a Remington to me, could be an Ulster based on the style of the long pull on the main blade.

Below that - sleeveboard pen, stag handle, looks like an English knife to me (IXL?).

Last one - sleeveboard whittler with wood handles - looks like New York Knife, maybe Ulster.

You've got an eye Knifeaholic.I forgetr the pearl ones name I'll get it later.
Second is a Boker USA, third is indeed a Valley forge,fourth is a Vom Cleff,
Fifth is the Schrade and the whittler is a NYK.After looking at millions of knifes you get to know them just by spotting hem from a distance by how they look.
You answered my questin though. They are pens based on blades on both sides. Knives of the same size with blades on one end are considered jacks. Thanks
 
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