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Whats the deal with CRKT?
- Thread starter The Moose
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Most of mine have "Taiwan" on the blade. For the money, they seem to be a pretty decent blade. All of mine are very good design,very sharp, and quite reliable.
Most CRKTs are made in Taiwan or China. Maybe most is too broad - better might be a good portion of their knives. Location of manufacture is not always the best indicator for quality, but I think it's safe to say that Taiwanese, and especially Chinese, made knives will not be consistent in their quality, as compared to the US-made models of Benchmade, SPyderco, etc., etc.
My take is, as always, while you'll track less blood into your house from the soles of your shoes with Taiwan products, you're still messing up the carpet, even if not to the extent of Chinese-made knives. This is not to say that I avoid all foreign-made knives, but I do especially from these two countries. In fact, in regards to knives, if it says China, and sometimes Taiwan, on it, I won;t keep it. Yep, I'm a small-minded conservative cad, and proud of it!
My take is, as always, while you'll track less blood into your house from the soles of your shoes with Taiwan products, you're still messing up the carpet, even if not to the extent of Chinese-made knives. This is not to say that I avoid all foreign-made knives, but I do especially from these two countries. In fact, in regards to knives, if it says China, and sometimes Taiwan, on it, I won;t keep it. Yep, I'm a small-minded conservative cad, and proud of it!
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The fact that a knife is made overseas is not indicative of quality or lack of.
Take the Byrd Cara Cara for instance , quality through and through and lots of knife for your buck.
I agree with folks assessment that CRKT is slowly dropping the ball by using lessor steels in their knives but they do have some really slick designs , especially this coming new year.
Personally I would take better steels like Aus8 over having several dozen new designs each year.
Take the Byrd Cara Cara for instance , quality through and through and lots of knife for your buck.
I agree with folks assessment that CRKT is slowly dropping the ball by using lessor steels in their knives but they do have some really slick designs , especially this coming new year.
Personally I would take better steels like Aus8 over having several dozen new designs each year.
And where is that beloved Cold Steel of yours made? :foot:
I have one CRKT knife, a M21-04, looks great, solid. Just to big for my EDC needs.
When you have to import your knives anyway, you don't really care where they are made, as long as they are well made and do the job.
Accept it. There are good knives made in asia, and there is crap made in the US. (not targeting any particular company, or not even a particular industry)
No, you're right Cybrok, there are exceptions to every rule. However, this doesn't nullify the rule. Nope....no blood-stained knives for me.
Now, I'd buy Canadian knives (if I knew of a manufacturer who made designs that caught my eye - Grohmann for one!!!), Japanese blades are nice and buyable, German and Argentine Bokers, Spanish Muelas, Svedish Helles and other Scandinavian blades, etc etc, are all on my list of blades to buy. I search and search when buying anything to get made in the USA products, but I'll buy foreign when they're better or when the price of US made doesn;t justify the quality (or the reverse of that). I believe that a free market is a good market. AND, these knives that I mentioned above are designed there and made there, and the ultimate profit stays there (exceptions to the rule noted).
But....back to China and sometimes Taiwan-made stuff. Now, if China was selling a Jiang-Zhou (for example) that THEY designed, made, marketed, and sold.... well, I'd look at it and not consider it with distaste. See? What we have here with these "blood products" as I like to call them is, greedy US (and other countries as well) using the cheap labor of an upcoming industrial power to make that company's design and sell it here, undercutting those who don;t do that.
It's free-market, ok? If one chooses to buy it, ok, I'm the one who doesn;t.
Now, I'd buy Canadian knives (if I knew of a manufacturer who made designs that caught my eye - Grohmann for one!!!), Japanese blades are nice and buyable, German and Argentine Bokers, Spanish Muelas, Svedish Helles and other Scandinavian blades, etc etc, are all on my list of blades to buy. I search and search when buying anything to get made in the USA products, but I'll buy foreign when they're better or when the price of US made doesn;t justify the quality (or the reverse of that). I believe that a free market is a good market. AND, these knives that I mentioned above are designed there and made there, and the ultimate profit stays there (exceptions to the rule noted).
But....back to China and sometimes Taiwan-made stuff. Now, if China was selling a Jiang-Zhou (for example) that THEY designed, made, marketed, and sold.... well, I'd look at it and not consider it with distaste. See? What we have here with these "blood products" as I like to call them is, greedy US (and other countries as well) using the cheap labor of an upcoming industrial power to make that company's design and sell it here, undercutting those who don;t do that.
It's free-market, ok? If one chooses to buy it, ok, I'm the one who doesn;t.
Give me a break! So you don't buy anything from Walmart, your wife doesn't have a diamond ring, you don't put gas in your car, and you grow all your own food? Even your "Made in USA" knife could have steel from Japan, brass from Asia, and a sheath with leather from South America and as long as it is assembled in USA, you think you're buying "American"? I applaud the attempt to buy American, but you're just not actually doing it.
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I think Evryone caught me as a radicle in this post, It was proabbly the way i worded it, All im saying is i dont want all the knives from usa Like Buck, Gerber etc etc moving to chine to be maanufactured cheeply and bad quality thats all im saying, I choose not to buy foriegin knives with no brand from china.. I love foregin knives i have jappeneese knives and german knives. Just the way i worded it, sorry.
My apologies. I agree with you more than I disagree. I too think our jobs should stay here in the U.S.
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I dont get it , other than the whole commie thing , whats the deal ? 
Seriously though , many of you would not have a problem ponying up for a knife made in Germany, or Italy , or France , as there many great knives made in those countries, and other countries to boot.
I have an old machete made in Argentina that I'll put up against anyone's American made machete , it's not the country - it's the craftmanship and materials used.
Folks once poo-poo'd anything made in Japan , recall the old term "rice burner" ? , then they really didnt have much of a choice.
Now we all know the Japanese make top notch cars and trucks , don't like it ? don't buy it.
Try buying anything modern such a microwave or PC or TV that is not either fully made in China or has the bulk of it's compenents made in China , it's simply the way it is folks.
That said , I buy what I like to buy , I dont care where it's made.... I had a Chinese SKS that would shoot with the dirtiest reciever you can envision , try that with... well you get my drift.
Seriously though , many of you would not have a problem ponying up for a knife made in Germany, or Italy , or France , as there many great knives made in those countries, and other countries to boot.
I have an old machete made in Argentina that I'll put up against anyone's American made machete , it's not the country - it's the craftmanship and materials used.
Folks once poo-poo'd anything made in Japan , recall the old term "rice burner" ? , then they really didnt have much of a choice.
Now we all know the Japanese make top notch cars and trucks , don't like it ? don't buy it.
Try buying anything modern such a microwave or PC or TV that is not either fully made in China or has the bulk of it's compenents made in China , it's simply the way it is folks.
That said , I buy what I like to buy , I dont care where it's made.... I had a Chinese SKS that would shoot with the dirtiest reciever you can envision , try that with... well you get my drift.
That's what I'm saying - knives made in foreign countries are great. I'll buy them. But, what I will NOT buy, are USA designed knives, from a maker in the USA, with the work sub-ed out to China. No sir. The Chinese (like the Svedes, Germans, Spanish, Finns, etc etc) can make their OWN brand....then I'll take a look at them, and I won;t have any heartache buying them if they suit what I'm after.
Right now I like the Hattori hunter. Made in Japan. Hattori designed it, bought the steel (who cares from where?), ground the steel, sharpened the edge, put their name on it, and they sell it through various vendors.
I like all the Helles. As in the Hattori above, the Norwegians make the knife and sell it. Some Norwegians might have a problem if they subbed the work out to some poor slobs in the U.S. (because we'll work night and day in deplorable conditions for .39 cents an hour with no overtime, right?), then sold the knife back in Norway for a pittance. Meanwhile, the Helle competitors, making knives in Norway (and keeping their country strong and viable) can't keep up.... UNLESS! they too sub out their manufacturing to the U.S. or some other country that hasn't a conscience. (By now, everyone but the most dense knows I'm using the USA as an analogy)
You shouldn;t apologize Moose. The beauty of having an opinion is that you own it. It's yours. Either you meant it or you didn;t.
We can't buy everything made in the USA....it isn;t possible. We can, however, strive to. That's what Americans do.... they suffer strife. And for those in the forum from other countries, you also suffer the same manufacturing maladies. It would be small-minded of me to critisize you for striving to show allegiance to your home country....to your bread and butter....
Right now I like the Hattori hunter. Made in Japan. Hattori designed it, bought the steel (who cares from where?), ground the steel, sharpened the edge, put their name on it, and they sell it through various vendors.
I like all the Helles. As in the Hattori above, the Norwegians make the knife and sell it. Some Norwegians might have a problem if they subbed the work out to some poor slobs in the U.S. (because we'll work night and day in deplorable conditions for .39 cents an hour with no overtime, right?), then sold the knife back in Norway for a pittance. Meanwhile, the Helle competitors, making knives in Norway (and keeping their country strong and viable) can't keep up.... UNLESS! they too sub out their manufacturing to the U.S. or some other country that hasn't a conscience. (By now, everyone but the most dense knows I'm using the USA as an analogy)
You shouldn;t apologize Moose. The beauty of having an opinion is that you own it. It's yours. Either you meant it or you didn;t.
We can't buy everything made in the USA....it isn;t possible. We can, however, strive to. That's what Americans do.... they suffer strife. And for those in the forum from other countries, you also suffer the same manufacturing maladies. It would be small-minded of me to critisize you for striving to show allegiance to your home country....to your bread and butter....
One thing puzzles me. Please help me understand the logic.
We buy and use clothes, shoes, beds, razors, soaps, shampoos, fertilizer, pet food, kitty litter, electronics, cars, and zillions of other products that are made in Asia- many in China & Taiwan, and yet we feel guilty buying pocket knives made in Asia? Please help me with this dichotomy
We buy and use clothes, shoes, beds, razors, soaps, shampoos, fertilizer, pet food, kitty litter, electronics, cars, and zillions of other products that are made in Asia- many in China & Taiwan, and yet we feel guilty buying pocket knives made in Asia? Please help me with this dichotomy
Except I'm pretty sure several spyderco knives aren't made in the USA anymore. Look on the blade. Some are made here in Colorado many aren't.
One thing puzzles me. Please help me understand the logic.
We buy and use clothes, shoes, beds, razors, soaps, shampoos, fertilizer, pet food, kitty litter, electronics, cars, and zillions of other products that are made in Asia- many in China & Taiwan, and yet we feel guilty buying pocket knives made in Asia? Please help me with this dichotomy
There is no guilt. Please refer to posts numbered 3, 7, and 13. If after reading you still cannot find the logic, then I can't help.
One thing puzzles me. Please help me understand the logic.
We buy and use clothes, shoes, beds, razors, soaps, shampoos, fertilizer, pet food, kitty litter, electronics, cars, and zillions of other products that are made in Asia- many in China & Taiwan, and yet we feel guilty buying pocket knives made in Asia? Please help me with this dichotomy
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