What's the strongest throw?

Kalindras · Mar 24, 2000

I mean, for pure, raw, unadulterated power?

I'm looking for a throw which, in best case scenario, would just bury a knife in the target. Something you'd need a prybar to get that sucker out with...

So, what's the consensus? Blade-first, handle-first? Overarm? Sidearm?

What?

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ohoisin · Mar 24, 2000

strength of the throw is not as important as distance when talking style of throw. for short rage a slap throw works well as distance increases so does the need to spin the knife, practice sticking then find a throw that will allow you to stick deep this may vary from distance to distance.

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Kalindras · Mar 24, 2000

Well, for the sake of discussion, let's use a distance of, say, twenty feet, or one revolution, whichever was further...

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Patte Gauche · Mar 25, 2000

Here is a small experiment I did recently and posted on another throwing list. It may give some insight to power and speed. I use the overhand baseball type forward throw.
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Weather was agreeable today so I gathered some data for the "thrown
knife speed" debate.

The following raw data is presented without any conclusion so that you
may make your own conclusions.

The following conditions and variables were part of the measurement.

1. Both sticks and misses were timed.
2. An electronic RadioShack stop watch used for times (nearest .01
seconds).
3. The start and stop reaction errors are assumed to be equal and in the
same direction, therefore nullifying a need for calibration or
adjustment of times.
4. There was a gusting on and off breeze of 15-20 mph mostly in the
direction of the throw. It is assumed that this had negligable effect.
5. A set of four Branton #9's was used - throw four retrieve and throw
again.
6. The thrower did not time his own throws.
7. The straight-line TOE DISTANCE WAS 36.0 FEET from the target and the
straight-line distance from TARGET TO HAND RELEASE WAS 35.5 FEET.
8. The straight-line of 35.5 ft. above represents the chord distance.
The actual path the knife flew was an arc prescribed of the 35.5 ft.
chord distance and a perpendicular height of 3.0 ft. at the mid-point of
the chord.

The times taken at 35.5 feet =>

1. 0.58 8. 0.56 15. 0.59 22. 0.56 29. 0.44
2. 0.63 9. 0.80 16. 0.67 23. 0.68 30. 0.48
3. 0.64 10. 0.49 17. 0.66 24. 0.50 31. 0.43
4. 0.68 11. 0.55 18. 0.55 25. 0.53 32. 0.65
5. 0.68 12. 0.56 19. 0.46 26. 0.56 33. 0.49
6. 0.50 13. 0.70 20. 0.68 27. 0.41 34. 0.61
7. 0.46 14. 0.47 21. 0.44 28. 0.45 35. 0.66

By the way, the distance was chosen to reduce stop watch error and
represents a four turn throw which a 60% stick rate was achieved on a 4
X 5 ft. target.

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Fall · Mar 26, 2000

To get the most power into your throw you would wind up and throw it like a baseball pitcher stepping into your throw.I think a long narrow bladed knife that's handle heavy and thrown by the blade would give you the best penetration esp. at longer distances. If the blade is not very sharp you grip it as you would by the handle or in a pinch grip.

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bahamajohn · Mar 27, 2000

Originally posted by Fall:
To get the most power into your throw you would wind up and throw it like a baseball pitcher stepping into your throw.I think a long narrow bladed knife that's handle heavy and thrown by the blade would give you the best penetration esp. at longer distances. If the blade is not very sharp you grip it as you would by the handle or in a pinch grip.

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bahamajohn · Mar 27, 2000

I used the "Branton Pro-Flyte Blade (PRO3.)" in a FOX TV special, were I threw them eight inches through a 55 gal. drum. Last week at the WWAC convention in LasVegas,I set the IKTA "long distance accuracy record," with the #3 with throws at 38 feet, putting 2 knives into the 16 ring with the same knives. One time the 9 + inch blade when into a palm log, to within 1 inch of the handle. It is as the other guy said, Long, bladed and thin, with a heavy handle.

Fall · Mar 28, 2000

Congradulations on your win in the IKTA long distance event bahama john. That's some pretty good throwing esp. under the pressure of competition. The Branton Pro Flyte No.3 was one of the knives I had in mind when I mentioned good penetration at long distances. I've had a pair for quite a few years now. It's an excellent blade thrower and I've thrown it farther than any other knife I own. Another knife I had in mind was the 16 inch long one that Skeeter Vaughan used to throw. They were made out of old bayonets and he threw them by the blade. He made his 87ft. lethal throw with one in WWII.

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bahamajohn · Mar 28, 2000

I threw one his knives at Harry McEvoys place in the early 70's. In my video "Recreational Knife Throwing" I was going to use that type of knife, but decided against it, because they were not readily available. Mac's old mod. No.6 Rifleman was quite similar to the Branton Pro#3. but I don't think as tuff.