What's your most BUSSE-like folder?

Walking Man

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I know a lot of people are going to say Strider folders (Or Maybe Chinook or Manix), but what folder do you have that you use when you need a really tough Busse-like folder, but can't carry a fixed blade with you?
(mods, if this is too off-topic, my apologies, I only mean to honor Jerry, by saying his knives are super tough!, I also thought I'd bring this up to give Jerry some ideas, for when he's ready to design his second folder. :D, I'm also really into folders too! )
My favorite right now, is the Camillus Dominator, not only is it tough, and nice flat grind and great lock, but the flipper and assisted opening really do it for me.
Here's another one that I think is really Busse-worthy. (It's a Bob Dozier Lockback with 154cm steel, can you say DROOL!)
I haven't had the cojones to use it yet:
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WM,

I was going to post this very question last night. I'd be interested. I have always shied away from folders for fear of lock falures but I hear things have improved in the last 10 years ;) Thanks for asking this. Come on hogs and pork rinds. Any thoughts?

The only two folders I have had recently was an Emerson CQC 7 Mini w/ wave and a CRKT M21. Both seemed to be decend but the Emerson, though smaller, felt like it was of better construction.
 
but what folder do you have that you use when you need a really tough Busse-like folder, but can't carry a fixed blade with you?
I don't have any folders that one could consider "Busse-like"........ :(
 
My most Busse-like folder? Boy, that is a tough one. Just as with fixed blades, there are so many different qualities a folder can have. Some folks value a folder that is almost weightless and effortless to carry. Others place a premium on extreme cutting efficiency. Many highly value speed of deployment. And yet others prefer their folders to feature beautiful damascus blades, mokume bolsters and mammoth ivory scales. When it comes to Busse aficionados, however, it's probably no surprise that we'll be looking for something 'nuclear tough'. And where does a folder earn a reputation for being tough and strong? I'd say from the security of its locking mechanism more than anything else.

Of course, trying to decide which lock mechanism is the best has been done to death in the General Forum and never resolved anything. Truth is, you can find well executed examples of just about any locking mechanism you can name. With that in mind, here are a few of my personal faves listed by lock type:

Lock back-- An old lock type but still a goodie. The Spyderco Manix is a solid contender in this field, although I must admit that mine's developed a tiny, yet annoying, bit of up-and-down blade play when locked open. Based on the majority of reviews, however, it would appear that mine is likely an anomaly, so I would still give it a conditional recommendation.

Liner lock or Walker lock-- Very prolific and yet occasionally questioned for its reliability. Still, there are a number of big beefy folders with very secure liner locks. Personally, I've had very good experiences with the Strider AR and, taking rookie of the year honors, my new Jerry Hossom/Ontario collaboration folder which goes by the name 'Retribution'. Either of these possess an inherent "Busse-ness" which I think would be appreciated by this crowd.

Frame lock-- Again, when properly executed, this is a very secure locking mechanism. Personally though, I don't really own any that would fall into the "overbuilt" category, excepting perhaps a Strider SMF which has performed exceedingly well for me albeit in only relatively light use.

Axis lock-- A relative newcomer, but one that has been enthusiastically embraced by the knife community for its strength and security. I have several Benchmades with this technology, yet none of them are overly brawny. I'd say the AFCK with its 4 inch D2 blade is probably the largest Axis I own, but it borders on delicate when compared to some of the brutes that have been mentioned thus far.

Button or plunge lock-- Here's a lock that's almost exclusively associated with autos (and for good reason, I might add). This association, however, shouldn't take away from the fact that the plunge lock, when properly maintained, is extremely strong and reliable. I should also mention that it is possible to find manual action production folders that employ this lock mechanism. My personal favorite is the full size MOD Duane Dieter CQD model. It's an extremely solid, well built folder with a large plunge lock and an extra safety slide that prevents accidental blade closures.

It's hard to imagine that any folder, regardless of the manufacturer, could ever give you the kind of piece of mind you get when holding a big solid slab of INFI in you hand. But hopefully Jerry understands that this isn't the standard to which we intend to hold him. Yes, if and when a Busse folder ever does come to fruition, we'll expect it to be nuclear tough-- but that should be in comparison to other folders. :)
 
Damn it why did you have to ask??? Now I'm going to have to think deep down :D

1. Blade profile: Drop point, although I love recurves like the Commander or better yet the CQC-11 UTCOM!
2. No tanto profile at least for the first run.
3. Either frame lock like the Sebenza/SMF or a simple lockback like the Manix, I think all the other locking systems are propietary like the Axis or the Microtech framelock etc... and like Bronco mentioned: liner lock is not reliable enough for Nuclear Though!
4. 3.5" minimum to 4.5" blade length
5. Tip up or optional drilling on the handle for the other configurations
6. Thumb studs, no holes.
7. The point should not be as thin as the Spydercos, a Busse Folder should be nuclear tough!
8. No autos! it complicates disassembly and cleaning. Illegal in many places.
9. Serrattions should be optional. If serrated, Jerry is right, they should be up in the front not the back like in the Victorinox One Handed Trekker.
10. Lanyard hole.
11. No swedge, although they look awsome it decreases the thickness were it needs it the most.
12. Wide blade like the Seb or thin like the BM 710...? Don't know yet
13. Blade thickness: ?/??" still thinking ( I told you! )
14. Be available in 2 Weeks! :p
15. Price: :(

Blades that approach this design (but still...) are the Severtech Spartan, Strider SMF, BM 710 in M2 HSS, Spyderco Manix, Emerson UTCOM or the Sebenza.
 
Isn't the lock for the folder going to be a new type of lock? I thought that jerry was working on a patent for it?

1. Blade Profile-Upswept blade kinda like the chinook
2. Handle- Snakeskin micarta with steel liners
3. Blade Length- 2 versions: One with 2.5 inch blade and other with 4inch blade.
4. Lanyard whole would be cool
5. Both knives with pocket clips, but the bigger version comes with a sheath for the belt.
6. Steel is of course infi
7. Custom lock stated above.
8. Small version should be tip up while big version should be tip down
9. Opening device should be a flipper and a thumb disc
10. Make the price only 150$!:D
 
sebenza! while i would not push it as hard as a Busse, i carry one every day, it does see some hard use, easy to sharpen and stays sharp a long time, solid lockup, feels like a fixed blade when open. i have had and still have lots of others, i do like lots of other blades, and sometimes rotate my carry just because i like a certain knife, but the sebenza always ends up back in my pocket. The Striders would be my second choice, but for everyday pocket carry, are a little large and bulky. and if you are going to carry your folder in a sheath on your belt, why not just carry your fixed blade? (legal issues aside). I for one would like to see an INFI blade in a Titainum frame lock. maybe i should try to modify a small Busse blade to fit in a sebenza frame....hmmm...
 
Well, if I had to choose it would be the Bob Dozier Worhorse that I foolishly traded out:o
 
My Camillus Aftermath kind of gives me the feeling to have a fixed knive because of the 5.5 inch blade.
I don't consider it "Busse-like" but Titan handles and D2 Blade is a good combination.
Titan handles and INFI would be even better :D
 
Severtech Auto, A-2 Blade, just not legal to carry in most states. (Auto Prybar Sharp/strong/fast)

I have a Large Sebby, I just don't carry it often.
 
man its got to be -the xm18 hinderer-its so over built its not funny-spanto blade with flipper is nasty looking-
 
RedEdge77 said:
Isn't the lock for the folder going to be a new type of lock?

I believe that was the stated intention, at least at one point in time. And, assuming the folder is still a serious project, it would be very cool if Jerry were able to introduce a never before seen lock mechanism. But again, by creating such a high level of expectation, are we not possibly working against the possibility that a folder will ever be released?
 
There is no Busse folder. (And I'm a touch skeptical about the concept, but happy to be wrong!)

Only one comes close in terms of the solid feel in my hand, I do love this Microtech Socom. Has a mirror polished edge. So smooth, can open swinging with one hand without using the thumbstud. (Since they seem to not like autos here in Indiana.)

This thing is the sharpest knife I have by far.

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Don't eat in front of the famished! :p

Awesome! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Did Jerry Busse took a look at this? What was his opinion?

I read the whole thread about the making of that one. Again simply Awesome!
 
DocAndry said:
There is no Busse folder. (And I'm a touch skeptical about the concept, but happy to be wrong!)
Maybe not from Wauseon, but make no mistake, that is a folder with an INFI blade up above. The donor was a BA3.
 
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