When are we going to do another Knife Challenge?

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I have always enjoyed the challenge threads where all us knifemaking dummies submit a forsaken blade to have the snot beaten out of it. Let's do it again! I'll put one of mine up against any other knifemaker out there. What do you guys say?
 
What happened to the last challenge?

It's stickied at the top of the forum section. That's what got me thinking about it again. I went back and read a bunch of it the other day. We need to have another one.
 
The idea for the original one was mine and the interest it generated was amazing, the whole thing just seemed to slowly fizzle out with the subsequent challenges. :(
 
I would LOVE to see another one. I also think it could really drum up sales for any knife maker that entered.....
 
The idea for the original one was mine and the interest it generated was amazing, the whole thing just seemed to slowly fizzle out with the subsequent challenges. :(

That's not at all what I saw. What I saw was a souring of the idea not on the part of the makers but through the amount of BS they endure that was generated by incompetent reviewers.

The first ever reviewer did the best job of them all. I'm not saying I completely endorse the way he went about it, but he was meticulous in his attention to the workmanship and wasn't shy with his criticism. To their credit, the makers did not baulk at that and came back for more.

Some of the subsequent trials have demonstrated a lack of commitment or understanding of the topic on the part of the reviewers. For example, I can vividly recall a collective review during which one of the reviews failed to submit his report for weeks on end. Then, even when his scoring was eventually submitted, it transpired that he and a co-reviewer had scored some characteristic on completely different criteria. In common parlance I think that's known as a nause-up.

Still, the makers seemed to like the experience / publicity of it and came back for more. Even when the Beckerheads had a go at the testing, and there was a bit of a clash of Beckerhead use vs uber-competitive-want-to-submit-the-best-cutter-of-the-cuttingy-things and some makers pushed the envelope a bit to far as to how thin an edge can be, leading to some pretty grim failures, they all took it like gentlemen. And once again they came back for more. Why after some of them had their work exposed to breakage in the glare of the public spotlight would they be willing to do that then and not now? I suspect because they were treated fairly and courteously. That's why they'd take their lumps along with the next guy then and not now.

Surely you must remember the disgrace that was the last episode. Fair play and courtesy are not words I could wrangle from that debacle in a loving way. In fact, there was some maker commentary here to the effect “has this reviewer stolen from us”, after months of being fobbed off, one of us [me] posted a link to where to find said reviewer alive and well and peddling his own wares. He turned up here hours after promising the makers they would get their knives back and delivering some sop of an apology. I think it still took a few weeks for all the makers to get their knives back.

Be clear in that I may be well off base here. The facts of all this stand exactly as I report them above, but it would be foolish of me to believe I have an insight into the motivations of any of the makers. I make no claim to speak for any, yet that is my gut feeling. It's little more than intuition on my part but I think you do the makers a disservice with “fizzle out”. This was nothing so graceful. This was people voting with their feet after getting shafted.
 
Thank you for answering in depth my hinted question

So if there is to be another, would there be clear stated ground rules for testing and returning.
The testing could be defined
But I found the ratings system after the reviews to be a little too subjective (distanced from the actual reviews)

I am very interested for this to be a chance for less well known knife makers to strut their stuff
 
I was apart of the first one that Pitdog spearheaded. It was a lot of fun. I know that at one point I assumed something I should not have and got a bit "confused" at one point. I would be interested in doing another depending on what type of knife was to be made.

Has there been a "Necker" or "Tin Knife" type of Challenge done? That would open it up to many people as they are or can be easy to make with minimal tools.
 
Has there been a "Necker" or "Tin Knife" type of Challenge done? That would open it up to many people as they are or can be easy to make with minimal tools.

I think that's a great idea. :)
Less time and money invested makes people less hesitant to enter, they'd be cheaper to ship, and such a size of knife is something that people might realistically have with them at all times.

Let's do it!
 
I think that's a great idea. :)
Less time and money invested makes people less hesitant to enter, they'd be cheaper to ship, and such a size of knife is something that people might realistically have with them at all times.

Let's do it!

Maybe a ' Last Ditch Knife ' no set specs just left to the blade makers for their interpretation of an easily concealable knife to get you by when you have lost all your other equipment ?
 
Maybe a ' Last Ditch Knife ' no set specs just left to the blade makers for their interpretation of an easily concealable knife to get you by when you have lost all your other equipment ?

Totally. :thumbup:
Leaves it wide open to individual interpretation based on design/use philosophy, while setting a size parameter of easily concealable.
I think it could be very fruitful; I even have a piece of steel calling to me with ideas. :)
 
Hey Pit...who tested in the first challange....I can't remember(was it you?)
 
I think necker / last ditch would be great.
State overall length & let the maker figure out the rest. I would say 6.5" -7" at the most.
 
Basically someone needs to spear head this. Decide on any rules if there are any(like length for example)
Then someone has to be a tester, I would suggest one person with time they can spare to do this it is a big undertaking with just the receiving and shipping back of all the knives.
 
I would love to be a tester. However their are others that could do a much better wright up.
I really like smaller knives.
Would it be a good idea to include one or two production blades like the BK11 / Izula? ( assuming knives of that size)That way people would have a standard to compare the knives to. Sort of a base line.
 
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