When, if ever, do you carry a knife that could get you in trouble with the law?

Dirk

Dirk

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Since there was a stupid law topic, I thought it might be interesting to see if anyone is willing to go against that stupid law.

I know some may not want to admit to something like this in writing.

I usually carry a "questionable" blade when I go out for late night walks. My area is still somehwhat rural and there is plenty of wild life that is out at night. Actually, my main concern are the large dogs that people let out at night. I am actually more concerned with that than with bad people. I usaully carry a 5" fixed blade with me. When I am in "the big city", I usally have my Kasper Companion. BM AFCK all of the time.

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Laws were made to be broken.

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Later,
John
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Extremism is the last refuge of the careless.
 
Seldom intentionally. I did wear a concealed fixed blade to try a certain carry style for a review I did of the Griffith Sniper.

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James Segura
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Who would know - unless you plan to visit your friendly local airport.
I have a CCW permit and always have some sort of blade. If I'm about to enter a courthouse I just leave my 5" Voyager in the car (the pistol gets deposited - something the security people know how to deal with).

Mosh
 
Hello!

All the time...:-(

And it suxxs bad!
This makes me mad!

Take care and be well!/Jonas aka 2Sharp

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Everyday there is a fixed blade above the legal limit on me somewhere. Its a risk worth taking.
ALex
 
I used to carry either a fixed blade (5-7") or a 357mag on some of my runs..rural, often cross country...at all hours....dogs being my main concern.

One carries what one feels is appropriate for the circumstances. Assessing risk realistically is important. Weighing risk of legal consequences (if caught) against consequences of not being prepared and liklihood of violence, one makes the decision of whether, what and how to carry a device that may be considered illegal.

ptn



[This message has been edited by ptn (edited 12 December 1999).]
 
As a LEO I have encountered numerous people carrying numerous weapons that were technically illegal for them to be carrying. However, I have never charged anyone with carrying the above stated illegal weapon if they were not caught in the commission of another crime(usually drugs). Every cop knows that the streets are dangerous and the people who make our laws don't seem to understand this. I am in no way advocating that you break the law in your given state, but be realistic. Most police understand this, I know I do.
 
Good show Rob. I recently got arrested and was carrying a 9.5" autonife I use at work. I told the officer it was in my pocket before he searched me and got it back a few days later with no concealed weapons charge. Always volunteer info like that when necessary. And be nice to the Man that is doing his job as he sees fit.
 
I lost the web-page which lists knife laws before I moved to Mass, but I'm pretty sure my Damadrop would be frowned upon. I make sure if I'm ever in a situation where the police might appear in an unfriendly situation, ie large party or concert, that I carry nothing more intimidating than a SAK.
Aaron

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Don't forget to pay your taxes...they eventually become my knives:)

 
I always carry several illegal knives, and I use them to murder official party politicians and political contributors on a daily basis. My real name is Mort Weinieburger and I live at 221 Chestnut Street, Springfield, Massachusetts. All the bodies are buried in my back yard, most of them under the oak tree but I ran out of space there so I've started burying my recent victims near the back fence, starting about 12 feet from the corner. They're all in shallow graves for the convenience of any policemen who want to dig up the evidence.

-Mort Weinieburger

P.S. In case the DEA is reading this, too, I should mention I have 20 marijuana plants in the cellar under grow lights. The cellar is locked with a combination padlock -- the combination is 36-24-35, the measurements of a former girlfriend I got tired of and murdered last week -- I forget just where I buried the body but it's in the yard somewhere ... I haven't gotten around to changing the combination yet, but when I do I'll post it.

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>One carries what one feels is appropriate for the
>circumstances. Assessing risk realistically is important.
>Weighing risk of legal consequences (if caught) against
>consequences of not being prepared and liklihood of violence,
>one makes the decision of whether, what and how to carry a
>device that may be considered illegal.

I thought the above was worth seeing again. I sometimes think many people don't do any risk analysis at all in their choices in this area [I am not talking about anyone in this thread, I obviously don't know your particular details; I'm speaking from general experience]. Much of the time, the risk of getting caught by an LEO far outweighs the risk of some kind of attack. And if the possible punishment is dire, you really need to be looking elsewhere.

If you get caught with a fixed blade and that turns out to be a felony, you're in deep. You will spend a fortune defending yourself -- money that could have gone towards making your family more comfortable. If you're convicted, you're in even worse. You will do jail time -- at which point not only are you not around to defend your family, but now you are in a concentrated population of criminals with nothing to defend yourself at all. And when you get out, you can't own a gun anymore.

All because of poor risk analysis. Plain and simple, as much as I'd love to find reasons to carry illegally, the risks are almost always too great and there are always alternatives. In my case, I can carry any size folder, like a 6" Vaquero Grande, legally. I can carry pepper spray legally. I can carry my 6 C-cell flashlight legally.

So I have some very effective legal tools at my disposal. If the risks of what I'm doing are so great that I feel like I need to carry more, then I re-think why I'm engaged in such dangerous behavior that a Vaquero Grande and 2 foot metal flashlight are insufficient. I realize that simply avoiding the behavior is not a luxury all people have, due to where they live or work.

On the other hand, you guys who carry illegally, be honest now. Are there more legal alternatives that are just as effective that you're not considering? As a side note, tell us whether or not you have a family that is depending on your presence for protection and financial support.

Joe

[This message has been edited by Joe Talmadge (edited 12 December 1999).]
 
I once heard that the average person arrested for drunk driving has driven under the influence about 1500 times before getting caught. I can't vouch for the accuracy of that figure but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Repeated risky behavior is a game of odds. If one persists in a routine of risky behavior it becomes a matter of WHEN and not IF one gets "caught". I think the prudent man would go about armed if he honestly believed the risk were great....but he wouldn't treat the decision lightly. Once again, the importance of risk analysis. What have you REALLY got to lose. Joe makes a very good point.

With tongue in cheek after reading Rob's post, I'd add... don't break more than one law at a time.

a couple more cents worth...

ptn

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Please don't infer from my comments that I condemn the carrying of weapons legal or not. I merely think it is one's best interest to think an anticipated behavior through and to be prepared to accept the possible consequences. I, for one, take far fewer chances than in my youth.
 
So how many people drive a few miles over the speed limit?? I don't know about your state, but its against the law to speed in my state. I'm sure we all break some "law" at one time or another. For some its carrying a weapon all the time, for others its speeding alittle. Call me stupid, cause it is a stretch between two extremes, but either one is a law that has been broken. Lets just say be careful what ever you do.
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All the time, everyday. I live in the UK and all the knives I own are illegal to carry.
sodemalL, I carry for the usefullness of the item, not for 'protection' as you'd have to be pretty stupid to mess with someone who is 6'6" and built like a brick s**t house.
I may stand out in a crowd, but I am doing nothing wrong in that crowd so the police have no reason to approach me.

Just the way I see it

JD
 
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