where can I get a real sword

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rifleer1

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When I say "real" sword, I mean something that has been handcrafted, and would hold up in a swordfight, something I could bang against a hard metal for hours without any bends or damage. I have heard of the katana's that were folded 1000 times, or something like that. Where would I find such swords? I know this is off topic for a knife forum, but I don't know where else to ask. I really don't want to spend $1000 dollars on a sword and get ripped off, I want the best. thanks! james
 
I'm and sorry to say there is no such animal. Any sword that makes contact with another sword (metal), especially an impact along the edge, will suffer some degree of damage. That includes everything from a 20 tiwan special to a 6 figure katana.

When you pay more for a sword you pay for balance, strength, and embelishment (collectability etc.). But this does not mean that your sword will not suffer damage if it comes into contact with another hard object (especially another sword).
 
Hello,


Cool Subject!!!!! i love Japanese style Bladeware.
I know this is beyond your 1000.oo idea,

But if i wanted a True to the Good Lord,
Pass the Rice wine, and where are the Geshia
Girls Combat Quality traditional Made and Finished sword by a maker in the states,
no doubt is a Piece by MICHAEL BELL!!

end of story,, his work is Functionally Exquisite!!! and he also with a Wakazashi
style blade is on record for cutting Steel Cable repeatedly without edge Problems of any kind. ( now thats what i call Da Chit)

Im not sure what his work brings these days but if i had the bucks,id own one myself.

I usally talk to him at Eugene Oregon, when i get to go.


Phil Hartsfield Also,makes some great stuff,
Although his own Concept but of the Classic style.

I see that BEIUGI Trading company(spelling)
selling Combat ready performance swords,
although i never have seen or held one.I think there in that price range you mentioned


my .02

Allen

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rifleer1,

Try this link, www.bladerigger.com & www.knives.com/dawson.html. They may be a bit pricey but they're worth it. Welcome to Bladeforum. I've seen and answered some of your other posts on AR15.com. Anyway, hope the info helps.

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Allen,

You might have meant the Bugei Trading Company http://www.bugei.com

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Yeah, they have great swords there... but
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the price! aughhh...

Dan
 
Hiya David!
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I've been meaning to ask you, where'd you get that sword of yours anyway? I saw it in your photopoint page.
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Dan
 
Rifleer1,

By the way welcome to the forums.

I was looking for a "real" sword a few years and found that the strongest, most interesting, and most price effective solution was to actually buy a real sword. Some of the military antiques command high prices; but, there are many good examples out there at very reasonable prices. You may want to check out a militaria show or a good antique shop as part of your search.
 
Dan,

Few years ago I visited one knife shop in nearby town and saw the katana hanging on the wall. I asked them about the maker and they gave me the address.

The katana is made of rail(way) steel but it is not folded and it is not selectively hardened. It will not cut silk, but it is sharp enough to cut flesh and bone. I bought it unsharpened and spent many weeks sharpening it (maybe I screwed it up doing it by myself). But I am quite happy with the results.

I paid about 180 USD for it - which is the biggest amount of money I spent for knife related stuff.


David

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You might be pleasantly surprised to investigate
http://www.nosyuiaido.com/

They have some surpisingly good values for shinken, bokkan, and other, less common pieces (Naginatas at noon, anyone?)



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Try Kris cutlery (invis.com/kriscutlery).
They have Decent quality (Full tang, real sheathes) Items at pretty good prices.
 
Rifleer, try www.tinkerblades.com He custom makes what are reputed to be some of the very best swords around, but he also has just started up making production swords at very reasonable prices. Take a look. He sells through www.twilights-door.com among others.

Posts on www.netsword.com and on www.swordforum.com would lead me to recommend that you avoid dealing with Museum Replicas. They have been purchased by an Indian concern, Windlass Steel, whose quality control stinks by all reports. So stay away seems to be the word.

The katana pictured above would appear to be a Paul Chen/Hanwei product imported by CASI and sold by, among others, Twilights-Door and Knife Center. They are reputedly a good value for the money.

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There's going to be another entry in the market soon. It's gonna be *awesome*.

Jim
 
Tinkerblades makes the highest quality european swords. Check em out at twilights-door.com. However, stay away from museum replicas at all costs! Believe me, they a nothing but pos. Also posting at netsword is a good idea.
Andrew
 
Thanks again guys! I stated $1000 as a guess, but I guess I was wrong...but I still can't afford 3 grand. I did make posts at the sword forums, and I will have to check on those now. See ya, James
 
I just wanted to add some measurements:

weight: 1160 grams (without saya), 1335 grams with saya
blade: length - 69 cm (measured on spine from tsuba)
width - 2.9 cm

tsuka: 26.8 cm

Balance point about 15 cm from tsuba

I cannot compare this one with others so I do not know whether it is well/ill balancned or too heavy. Comments from people who KNOW are welcome.

David


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Rifleer, I see that you have posted over at SwordForum. I think that what they suggest will stand you in good stead. From what I have seen of Tinker's Toys, they are beautiful, and his production models are of very high quality at prices well within your range, if you want a western sword. Do give him a look-up at www.tinkerblades.com

Well, given SwordForum's problems, you might wish to repost your request. Their server crashed, or something. They've been down for about 36 hours and seem to have lost a lot of their old posts.

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If you are looking for sturdy blades to bang around on things with, and desire that and cost over beauty (not that function is not beauty) Check your local RenFair. There are a few bladesmiths out there who turn out sturdy blades designed for re-enactment and recreation, and can be had for $100 - $500. I know of one or two who put a lifetime guarantee on their blades, and one maker tells a story of replacing a hand and a half blade that someone bent lifting their VW bug to change the tire. He also told the guy not to do that again. If you live in the Colorado area, the Fair at Larkspur has two vendors who make their own blades, and another with shoddy wallpieces.

Stryver, who prefers rattan blades, they damage his friends less...
 
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