Where is the INFI Kephart?

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Haole

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There are so many talented knifemakers on this forum with a kephart model knife. How about one made of INFI? 1/8" thick of course......:thumbup:
 
Jerry doesn't use other makers patterns or designs, and has been fairly clear about forum members not posting (photoshopped/drawn) images of designs they want in an effort to cut down on potentially using someone elses design. He may make a knife with the same basic requirements, but he won't make a "kephart" or any other makers design any time in the near or distant future. Just as infi is proprietary, so are the designs.
 
Pvt.snoballz said:
INFI is proprietary. though it would be cool to see it offered elsewhere
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He means many makers already make a Kephart design, but Busse does not and he'd like to see one.

I'm all for a good Busse Bushcraft blade, but the kephart just doesn't scream Busse to me. I love giant heavy choppers, BUT I do appreciate a good small blade for bushcaft use. I'd LOVE to see a scandi ground thin infi blade, probably 4 inches long, but I doubt it'll ever happen. It just doesn't seem to fit the image of Busse Combat. The hogmuk could be pretty sick though, as long as it's not .33 thick.

When I think Kephart, I just picture a blade made from JK knives or similar with wood handles and a heavy patina, i'm not picturing a choil/talon hole/magnum g10.
 
Last Visible Canary said:
Jerry doesn't use other makers patterns or designs, and has been fairly clear about forum members not posting (photoshopped/drawn) images of designs they want in an effort to cut down on potentially using someone elses design. He may make a knife with the same basic requirements, but he won't make a "kephart" or any other makers design any time in the near or distant future. Just as infi is proprietary, so are the designs.
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It's not as if the Kephart is some new design, it's like saying he wouldn't produce a muk blade because it's been done before, or a bowie because Jim Bowie designed it. The warboar is a karambit, surely that's not a design unique to Busse.
 
230grains said:
It just doesn't seem to fit the image of Busse Combat. The hogmuk could be pretty sick though, as long as it's not .33 thick.

When I think Kephart, I just picture a blade made from JK knives or similar with wood handles and a heavy patina, i'm not picturing a choil/talon hole/magnum g10.
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I've actually used 1/2" thick "scandi ground" small knives from HI... They weren't so great in the slicing department o_0

scandy grinds are kinda dangerous when it comes to hard use knives. If you set the grind low enough that edge thinness isn't an issue the knife is almost worthless because it acts as a wedge, and if you set the grind high enough that it's tolerable as far as the wedging goes it's too thin at the edge for "abuse".
 
That's where the problem lies, people will see "busse combat" and try prying a car door open with a knife no thicker than a mora and then complain that Busse is junk and break easy.

Me? I beat the hell out of my knives, but all of my BC knives are FAT and I would be hard pressed to break them with anything short of a torch or 20 lb sledge and a vice. If I had a BAD or similar, I think I would probably use a bit more care then I would say, with my cg ASH which I have dug out many a firepit with, chopped roots, pryed rocks.
 
230grains said:
It's not as if the Kephart is some new design, it's like saying he wouldn't produce a muk blade because it's been done before, or a bowie because Jim Bowie designed it. The warboar is a karambit, surely that's not a design unique to Busse.
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Look at jerry's "muk" designs and look at the old nessmucks. They share design elements, but you would never in a million years confuse the two of them. it would be pretty difficult to find another karambit that looked like the warboar, which has a unique handle contour and a double edged/half serrated blade that's at a severe angle to the hand. It has the design elements of a karambit, but it would never be confused for anyone elses design.

It's one thing to say "I'd like a straight handled knife with a small guard and a straight blade, lots of belly very little drop point, no swedge", it's something entirely different to say "make me a kephart". Jerry will make sure that when he designs a knife around your desired elements that it does not mimic or copy another makers design.
 
Oh I agree with you there, I wouldn't assume he would design a knife exactly like the previous design, I'm sure it would have the "busse touch". I thought you meant that certain styles of blades were "off limits".
 
230grains said:
Oh I agree with you there, I wouldn't assume he would design a knife exactly like the previous design, I'm sure it would have the "busse touch". I thought you meant that certain styles of blades were "off limits".
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you know it's funny, I was sitting here thinking kephart was still alive :foot::foot::foot:


now that I realize he was working from 1890-1930 I'll go ahead and say I sound pretty dumb in the previous posts. I doubt jerry will ever do a true kephart, but he might do something very similar (as you've said the design just doesn't scream busse).

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sigh... the more I read about the kephard design the more I realize my ignorance.
 
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round the front swedge/clip to a spear point and you've pretty much got the makings of the kephart design. I had the custom shop make this out of a sar5, when I got it I replaced the handles and cut 1/2" off the butt. While the handle has more contour then your straight kephart design, it's still comfortable in all 4 grip positions.

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Last Visible Canary said:
Jerry doesn't use other makers patterns or designs, and has been fairly clear about forum members not posting (photoshopped/drawn) images of designs they want in an effort to cut down on potentially using someone elses design. He may make a knife with the same basic requirements, but he won't make a "kephart" or any other makers design any time in the near or distant future. Just as infi is proprietary, so are the designs.
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It seems like the 'Hog Muck' is loosely based on the Nessmuck so I thought Busse could have a Hogphart loosely based on a Kephart. :D:D:

There is a serious void in my Busse collection for a good 'bushcraft' style knife.

Thin, no choil, full size comfortable handle.........INFI steel......I'll just keep dreaming.
 
Jerry is genius as a maker and marketeer, but I do wonder why he hasn't produced the Muk or something like a Kephart. He would have a stampede of epic proportions if he got on the bushcraft designs right now.
 
I'm down. The Kephart is a better blade design than the 'muk' for certain. Muk's are just plain goofy... :p
 
Take a look at the BOSS Street:eek: It basically is a Kephart (though with a choil)-though there's a bit more contouring on the bottom of the handle, the size/shape is pretty close!
 
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