Where is the line?

Status
Not open for further replies.
stevekolt

stevekolt

Gold Member
Joined
Jan 9, 2007
Messages
3,081
Where is the line between traditional, and non-traditional? Is it pattern, blade material, cover material, or something else? Some of the Lion Steel and Maserin offerings at CK are basically traditional patterns with upgraded (?) materials. What is the consensus here on the porch?
 
There's a sticky thread about this topic, post #2 has the details:

Guidelines For The "Traditional Folders & Fixed Blades" Sub-Forum

Welcome to to the Traditional Forum! The goal of the Traditional Forum is to provide a place where friends can talk about their traditional knives and share information about them in a relaxed friendly atmosphere. Folks have asked for detailed guidelines of what is allowed in the Traditional...
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com
 
Some folks say thumb studs, some folks think liner locks, but I think most people accept simple friction folders and knives with back springs.

The general consensus on the ones you listed is modern traditionals.
 
In the words of Justice Potter Stewart --

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it...
Click to expand...
 
One the mods explained it like this and it works well for me.

If you pulled it out of your pocket in the 50-60s or older and it looked like it belonged there it's good. No studs, opening holes, or pocket clips.

No one has spectrometer eyes so if it's a slipjoint in modern steel no one cares. Knives that use screws instead of pins have also been blessed.
 
stevekolt said:
Where is the line between traditional, and non-traditional? Is it pattern, blade material, cover material, or something else? Some of the Lion Steel and Maserin offerings at CK are basically traditional patterns with upgraded (?) materials. What is the consensus here on
Click to expand...
Dont think "line" ,think "Spooky mysterious fog" with a chorus of strange creatures emitting from it...as you approach the swampy mirk the water is turbulently splashed by some large unseen semi human aquatic predator.Beware..it will devour your money!
stevekolt said:
the porch?
Click to expand...
 
Danke42 said:
One the mods explained it like this and it works well for me.

If you pulled it out of your pocket in the 50-60s or older and it looked like it belonged there it's good. No studs, opening holes, or pocket clips.

No one has spectrometer eyes so if it's a slipjoint in modern steel no one cares. Knives that use screws instead of pins have also been blessed.
Click to expand...
Yup. Short and sweet.

More detail can be found in the Traditional Forum Guidelines sticky. (It always surprises me how few folks read the stickies.)

Guidelines For The "Traditional Folders & Fixed Blades" Sub-Forum

Welcome to to the Traditional Forum! The goal of the Traditional Forum is to provide a place where friends can talk about their traditional knives and share information about them in a relaxed friendly atmosphere. Folks have asked for detailed guidelines of what is allowed in the Traditional...
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com
A bit more detail:
If a regular knife user of the mid 1960's would find nothing out of the ordinary about the design, then it's traditional.

That means large Buck 110-ish lockbacks are in.

SAKs date to the late 1800's. If they are not one hand opening, they are in. (See comments on materials of construction.)

Modern locking mechanisms such as Walker liner locks, pocket clips, holes / studs to allow one hand opening are all out. (Traditional liner locks, such as the lock on a TL29, are in.) Add a clip to a stockman, and it needs to be posted elsewhere. By the same token, if it is traditional except for a clip and you remove the clip, feel free to post it here.

We tend to have some tolerance when it comes to fixed blades. But, new designs with features such as glass breakers, are not included in this forum.

We give leeway on materials of construction. So if you have a nice stockman with G10 covers, it's traditional enough for us. After all, plastics have been used on knife handles since the 1800's. Stainless steel has been used in cutlery since the 1920's, so stainless is considered traditional. And even though PM alloys are new developments, that fella in the mid-1960's would never know the difference if he were looking at the knife, so they are OK, too.
Click to expand...
 
Rookie82 said:
You know it when you see it. That's my definition. :p
Click to expand...
That's basically it for me.
Most people do have a basic idea of the average traditional knife, if not just browse a couple pages of the daily carry thread and you'll get a clearer picture.


It really bugs me when some smartass tries to weasel in a modern folder just because it meats the technical perameters.
It's not like you can't show traditionals in GKD, so why insist on trying to force the knife onto the porch.

I say go take that modern slipjoint to the crack house in the city and let us keep the porch on this old farmhouse a clean wholesome place.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top