Where's the 3v delta logo on my new GSO 4.7?!

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animportant

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Just received my December 90 day order 4.7. Don't see the delta logo.

Is this for real not delta 3v?!
 
D3V started with the new spec 4.1s, yours has the improved heat treatment like the new spec 5.1s.
It's a great blade and still my favorite for the grip alone.
 
Sadly it is not delta. 5.1s and 4.7s are the pre-delta heat treat. A surprise like this isn't fun, sorry to not have better news.

If it makes you feel any better I really don't think the average user will see a HUGE different between the optimised, low temperature heat treat that you have and the full on delta. Not to demean you as "average", but unless I'm batoning through nails with a hammer, I don't expect to see drastic differences in my own uses.

EDIT: Psybull beat me by a couple minutes and I agree with him.
 
I shouldn't be, but am disappointed. Luke, if it comes to that you will have first dibs. I'll let you know within a day or two.
 
Cool! I guess this means that my order for a 2nd 4.7 in 3V from December 8th should be shipping soon! :)

Edit: I have many perfectly serviceable knives in 3V that do not have a delta symbol on them. I'm even very happy with 3V with the dreaded high temperature tempering! :eek:
 
I have your Delta symbol. Send it to me and I'll promise to stick it back on for you!
 
Fancier said:
Cool! I guess this means that my order for a 2nd 4.7 in 3V from December 8th should be shipping soon! :)

Edit: I have many perfectly serviceable knives in 3V that do not have a delta symbol on them. I'm even very happy with 3V with the dreaded high temperature tempering! :eek:
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They're suppose to ship next week. :)
 
I honestly don't think any of us will know the difference between the two heat treats. However, I'm sure you can sell it pretty easy if you don't want it. Either that or trade someone for a 4.1, since those are shipping more now
 
supertac916 said:
I honestly don't think any of us will know the difference between the two heat treats. However, I'm sure you can sell it pretty easy if you don't want it. Either that or trade someone for a 4.1, since those are shipping more now
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Nathan Carothers had also stated that in terms of performance, the differences between the two HTs is not going to be discernible by most users who use the two versions under any normal circumstances. I think that the higher tolerances of the Delta HT will become more noticeable when testing the edge under extreme use (retains edge better) and also the D3V scores higher in being more corrosion resistant.
 
animportant said:
I shouldn't be, but am disappointed. Luke, if it comes to that you will have first dibs. I'll let you know within a day or two.
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Ignorance is bliss. I have used Survive knives 3V before the delta heat treat came about and was perfectly happy with it, too bad I didn't know better so I could be unsatisfied.
 
supertac916 said:
I honestly don't think any of us will know the difference between the two heat treats. However, I'm sure you can sell it pretty easy if you don't want it. Either that or trade someone for a 4.1, since those are shipping more now
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I've said it before... us mere mortals will never know the difference!
 
Agree with what Casino said, I doubt you will notice any difference unless you verge on the side of abuse. Maybe the only noticeable difference under regular use would be its corrosion resistance, but still, that would require some neglect to notice anyway
 
Jhansenak47 said:
Ignorance is bliss. I have used Survive knives 3V before the delta heat treat came about and was perfectly happy with it, too bad I didn't know better so I could be unsatisfied.
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Ha! Going from my 5 to my 4.7 was an improvement in steel performance, more than I'll ever need in my anticipated uses, but I still had a moment of let-down when I learned there was a newer and better heat treat. I can relate with the feeling of knowing you don't have the very best that is available, but for me, even my (old) GSO 5 will perform beyond what I actually need.

There's been a lot of good advice here from others, so I hope you're able to get something that makes you fully happy.
 
Some people are really overdoing this whole delta 3v thing
The improvements over the previous HT will not be noticed by most users except if you cut nails...
Who cuts nails with a knife anyways?

I have been using my 3v 4.7 for a while and it's an awesome knife.
Don't get blinded by the hype
 
I only have two knives in D3V a F2 4.1 and a CPK FK. I just got the 4.1 yesterday and plan to compare it to the various other 3v's, but I agree with everyone, that if we won't even put the standard 3v's to the test with most knives. Especially with Survive's new gen model heat treats on a 4.7. The main improvement versus the 1st Gen is the corrosion resistance. My older models 3v can develop surface rust, but haven't experienced any in the newer heat treats. Although it doesn't impact performance and is more cosmetic in my opinion.
 
I can tell a difference between my old 4.1 and my CPK D3V stuff. The edge retention on both is good, but the CPK is better... it keeps that just-sharpened bite longer.

I'd be a little disappointed as well. It's only a difference between something really good and something a bit better... but it is still a difference.
 
Skrapmetal said:
I can tell a difference between my old 4.1 and my CPK D3V stuff. The edge retention on both is good, but the CPK is better... it keeps that just-sharpened bite longer.

I'd be a little disappointed as well. It's only a difference between something really good and something a bit better... but it is still a difference.
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I can tell a difference too. Both in the CPK D3V vs old 4.1 and 3.5, and CPK D3V vs CPK previous tweak 3V.

It's not hype IMO, and it isn't magic either, but it's good.

Animportant, were you just taken off guard? None of us have a 4.7 in the Delta version yet.
 
I ordered a 4.1 in d3v back in July, and thought all orders going forward would be d3v. It's cool I guess.
 
That is interesting about noticing the differences in the various stages of evolution of 3v heat treat.

I'll be interested to see if I can tell any differences as I'm doing various wood related projects. Hunters usually seem to have a more keen (:D) sense of edge retention with different steels.
 
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