Which boltie action milsurp?

BruiseLeee

BruiseLeee

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I was thinking of getting a bolt action milsurp for accellerating lead particles.

Which would you recommend and why?

Lee Enfield (which #?)
Mauser
Moisin Nagant

They looka lika fun. :)
 
I think your answered your own question with that last remark. You need one of each.:D
 
Thought you'd never ask. :D

Short answer: a Mauser- Yugo or German K98... ammo is as little as .5 a round.

Lengthy justification with pictures later.


Mike

PS they're all good. No wrong answer to it.
 
I'll be watching closely for that longer answer.

I do like the idea of a Mauser 8mm, perhaps to use as a deer hunting rifle. But have not found as much info as I'd like about their accuracy, if in decent condition and with either a scope or aftermarket sights. But I'm quick to add that I know less than squat about such things ... hence why I'll be watching this thread pretty closely.
 
Bruise?

You got lucky. Ad Astra has a full-blown addiction to these things. When he posts his tutorial, with pictures and advisories, you will have an up-to-the-minute state of purchase, cleaning, dismantling, and utility of the rifles available.:D

Dunno about getting them in Canada, though.

I like the "particle accelerator" concept, though.
 
Kis?

They're relatively cheap in Canada. I think surplus ammo is a little harder to find though.

I waffled and missed out on an Israeli k98 in 308 last week. :(
 
Kis, Marstar in Canada sells nice milsurps cheap. Canadians get a good shake there. Don't ask me how I know. :D Bruise can even get an MG-42. <ahem>. Just no handguns; apparently, they are somewhat dangerous.


Mike
 
but, but, but....

isn't Canada the place where you have to have a permit to carry your gun, in the case, from home to the shooting range? I thought the laws were Draconian?

The more I learn, the less I know.


sheez.
 
An Israeli K98; would that have been a WWll Mauser rebuilt and issued by the Israelis in the the late 40's? Bit of history there.

The answer used to be go Mauser.
There is something to be said for the cheaper Russians.
A lot depends upon ammo availability in your area.

Canada is probably Enfield country.
Most of the Enfields are limited by their actions to comparatively lower pressures in ammo.

Are you willing to chop this thing down, or do you keep it as issued?


munk
 
Kismet said:
but, but, but....

isn't Canada the place where you have to have a permit to carry your gun, in the case, from home to the shooting range? I thought the laws were Draconian?
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Turns out Draco the Lawmaker's not such a bad guy, if you don't try to own/carry handguns, or full automatics.

For the vast majority of long guns, you simply need to buy or renew an "acquisition permit," once every 5 years. It's about $60CDN (maybe $40US). Except when you're using it (i.e. hunting, range), you need to carry your gun unloaded, in a case. The long gun registry was a bit more involved (paperwork, not $); you filled out a form when you bought one - what you owned was kept in a database.

To get a hunting license, need to complete an approved hunter safety course once (about $90), then just buy your license forever after.

Gotta store your guns locked up, unloaded, and separate from your ammunition (which must also be locked up). That's it.
The more I learn, the less I know.
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You too? That's my life!:D
 
Mauser= Strong action, lots of stuff available for them, gunsmiths know them well.

Mosin nagant= tough rifle, inexpensive, can be very accurate. A bit awkward, for me, from the shoulder.

Enfield= very fast action, can be very accurate, considered by many as best bolt combat rifle. Not as easily converted to other calibers as the mauser though.

having said that, you should get a 71/84 mauser, with 8 shot tube magazine, and load up some .43 Mauser black powder loads!!

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Or, get a K31!!

:D

Tom
 
You can't go wrong with a mauser or an enfield, But if you opt for the lee
try to stay away fom the #1 they are the oldest and the weakest action. The # 4 was the last design ( have owned 4 in my lifetime) If you can get
a #4 jungle carbine all the better, I know our Canadian Tire always has One this time of year. But always Get headspace checked on any lee mainly because of rear lock-up on bolt.
 
Canadian Tire sells guns? :eek:

I remember the Sears catalog from years ago had them.

Which CT store is this? Must be in the boonies. ;)
 
munk said:
An Israeli K98; would that have been a WWll Mauser rebuilt and issued by the Israelis in the the late 40's? Bit of history there.
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Yes... I think it was a Yugo rebarrelled for 308. I figure it would be good as I wouldn't have to store lots and lots of different calibers.

I'm too new to lead acceleration to start chopping stuff.
 
wayne37 said:
If you can get
a #4 jungle carbine all the better,
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My father carried one of those in the Burmese mountains & jungle for a few years.

He always reckoned they had a wandering zero that he hadnt seen on the full length one? Said they were no good for distance sniping.

Dont know if his unit just had a bad batch or if its true of them all?

Spiral
 
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