Which Emerson is best for self defense?

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colubrid

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I am talking about blade design and not just size of the blade. Obviously the bigger heavier knife wins in this category (or maybe I am wrong?).

My question is are certain blade designs better for certain grips and defensive tactics. In other words slashing vs stabbing?

I was reading on the internet youtube videos that the blade on the CQC-8s are good for self defense. Then I see a vid on the Persian where Mr. Emerson does not want to go into the gore detail of what this blade style is meant for (?), or meant to do.. ?

Now I have a Gentleman Jim on the way and it is a slim blade maybe more meant for stabbing than slashing.

I would think in defense puposes a slashing style blade (or one that slashes easier) is better because you can stab with any blade.

So is it the CQC-8/Horseman with it curve style the best for slashing? which is best for self defensive purposes.......?
 
I would guess that the CQC-7 tanto style is not as good for slashing as the curved Emersons for slashing self defense.

Anyone here train for self defense with tactical knives, particulary Emerson knives!? Wondering what your opinion or Mr. Emersons opinion is on this??
 
for self-defense i think the persian would perform best. a very acute tip, with a sweeping blade edge. i remember something along the lines of mr. emerson saying it was designed for personnel, and penetrating vests.
 
The gypsy jack seems like one hell of a knife for slashing .

Anyone know what its intended purpose is?


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The Persian hands down. It's not a matter of opinion it's a matter of fact. That blade style is as deadly as can be.

Secondly, I would say the CQC 15. Great slashing performance and equally great thrusting performance.
 
The Emerson you have in your hand is probably the best for self defense ... or offense. Not trying to be cute, but damaging humans is a major factor in his highly effective designs.

Which should you choose? Begin with hand to hand training, move up to hand against weapon, and see what knife style gives you the most trouble -- in other words, let your opponent train you.

Don't ask which knife and then train around it. Any decent knife will get that job done.

The gypsy jack seems like one hell of a knife for slashing .

Anyone know what its intended purpose is?
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To make me want one? :) I personally think you would be very well served by that Gentleman Jim. It is a dagger that will slash well, and the handle is designed for a secure grip (like all of his knives). Nothing lacking.
 
Check out Edwood7 showing off his Persian going through a kevlar vest...I would say any Emerson will get the job done in a SD situation I would prefer say a Persian to a cqc-7 for size and blade shape obviously. The Persian is one if the few Emersons I've never owned , but like others said, its a hell of a weapon. I wouldn't think twice about taking a cqc-8 or super 8 into a SD situation either.
 
Esav is correct.
The flesh is weak, man. Get the knife that appeals to you.
rolf
 
I think you would be happy with either the CQC-15 or CQC-8.
With proper technique and practice the blade practically comes out open and ready to go from the pocket.
Cant beat that!!
 
All of Emerson knives are tactical blades, what does tactical mean to you though? IMO they are designed as a weapon first,that is why the ergos are so great on EKI knives.I forgot all about the karambits, with the proper skills a karambit is highly effective, like others have said though flesh is weak , you do need a certain blade length to hit vitals,I don't remember what the length is I wanna say at least 3.5 inches but I could be wrong..Its been a long time since I was taught all that and my memory ain't what it used to be.
 
Lycosa said:
Esav is correct.
The flesh is weak, man. Get the knife that appeals to you.
rolf
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In real world there are assailants with tremendous advantage pyshchologically to get the jump on you. Lets say you are visiting Brazil with known problems (a place I travel to frequently). You can't carry a gun so you carry a knife. Then a situtauion comes up where two guys with knives or they are just plain huge and street wise. Do you really think they will back down and go running down the steet because you pulled a knife and showed it to them? No, you would have to use it and use it fast without thinking. I would want a knife that will have the best slashing abilities.

In real situations things are not as simple as the flesh is weak. The mindset and aggression of the other person can do you in even though they may have a been sliced on the arm or chest. So I want a Emerson with a blade design than can do the worst damage with the least amount of sweeping moves.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I personally think you would be very well served by that Gentleman Jim. It is a dagger that will slash well, and the handle is designed for a secure grip (like all of his knives). Nothing lacking.
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Yeah but I ended up not getting it after all. This is the second Gentleman Jim I paid for and was refunded. I received email at 8:30am this morning from the seller asking if I would take it. So I paid via Paypal at 10:21am. But at 10:02am someone posted an "i'll take it" on the thread and paid for it at 12:22pm. So she refunded me the money. Me thinks I should have gotten it cause I was sent Paypal info first. I am giving up on the Gentleman Jim. It is cursed . I bought about 8 Emersons and other knives this past 30 days alone on this forum and others without a hitch ever.


I think I will just buyt from people who actually participate in the forums and not just have ALL their posts on the exchange selling. Cause I see a common thread with people and their ethics who don't partake in the hobby and just sell.
 
In a real situation, you don't know what's going to go down. One can be killed with bare hands.
Using a knife for SD should be the last resort.
rolf
 
Karambit/Super-Kbit. Lots of fighting techniques designed around that blade shape & grip orientation.
 
colubrid said:
I think I will just buy from people who actually participate in the forums and not just have ALL their posts on the exchange selling. Cause I see a common thread with people and their ethics who don't partake in the hobby and just sell.
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This is really good policy.
 
colubrid said:
I am giving up on the Gentleman Jim. It is cursed .
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Don't give up on the Gentleman Jim as it is a very nice knife. One of my favorites!

Is the P-Tac in the photo yours? I'd imagine that the P-Tac would be your best bet.
 
colubrid said:
The gypsy jack seems like one hell of a knife for slashing .

Anyone know what its intended purpose is?
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Emerson originally designed the Gypsy Jack for Keith Richards to replace a knife that he carries, which I believe is an Okapi.

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[via Wikipedia] The Okapi is a lockback or slipjoint knife originally produced in 1902 for export to Germany's colonies in Africa. The knife takes its name from the okapi, an animal which had recently been discovered in the Belgian Congo.

The Okapi knives are no longer produced in Germany; in 1988, Okapi South Africa (then trading as All Round Tooling) bought the trademark and tooling and began producing the Okapi line of knives in South Africa. The South African Okapi lockback knives are produced with carbon or stainless steel blades, with or without serrations. The most commonly found Okapi knives in Africa are made of resin impregnated wood (usually cherry) and the blades are made of 1055 carbon steel.

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Which is the best Emerson for self defense? The one in the hands of someone well trained. Focus more on training, and less on gear. Only then will you obtain what you are looking for. No knife alone is going to help you in a self defense scenario.
 
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