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mike21

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choices are

gerber SL 3.25, spectre, AR 3.00, fred carter utility II, maybe airframe if i can find one



benchmade 710


i prefer the shape of the 710, since ill be using the knife mainly for gutting and filleting fish.




and also, please tell me the differences between

154CM, 410, 420, AUS-8A, and ATS-34





thx in advance


mike
 
mike21, greetings.IMHO, if you are already leaning to the 710, thats the way I'd go. Idont know what steel is available, but spending alot of time around fishing,A good stainless will be easier to maintain.420HC, AUS6A, AUS8A of proper heat treating are good choices.ATS 34,(from my own experience)needs to be cleaned closer than the others. This takes just a few seconds when youre done with youre catch,rather than laying it aside for later.;)
just my cent and a half.
guy
 
Of course you could go with a talonite bladed knife since it will never rust. Maybe the talonite EDC from Camillus?
 
I wouldn't use my 710 to clean fish with on a regular basis. I did do it this summer once when a coho died on me that I intended to release. The folding 710 is gonna get gooed up with blood, scales, slime, etc... It's a great knife, but a sharp fillet knife will do a better job.

Just my humble opinion.

Bruce
 
yeah ill probably get the 710, but i dont think its actually worth that money they are asking for, based on the steel used. but i guess if you want the best you gota be prepared tpo pay for it, and the axis lock is suppose to be really sturdy.


im in australia, so unlike over there int he states we are not allowed to carry knives on the streets, so ill be mainly using it for hikes and camping trips. no such thing as a "daily carry " here







rav
 
Welcome to the forums!

I agree with Akwacko that a fixed fillet knife is the better choice for gutting and filleting fish, especially if you use your knife for this work regularly.

After usage the folder should be cleaned (because of hygienic reasons) and this demands in my opinion to disassemble the folder. And here comes the problem, I think that sooner or later the screws will be damaged because most of them are not made for regular usage.
 
the problem is space, i will be using this knife exclusively on hikes and camping trips. b4 now all i had was my leatherman WAVE, its a great little knife, and it does just about everything, but i need something that has alittle more length to it. also the leatherman is even harder to clean, since the torx wrenchs are not sold to individuals.

i was hoping to use the pocket knife as a primary cuting tool amd having the leatherman as a back up.

carrying a seperate filleting knife is just too troublesome. i was wonr be doing much filleting anyway, just gutting an cuting up the flesh.


i guess i'll just have to becareful not to get any gunk into the joins:)





oh and also, im interested in buying a large unitility knife for chopping and prying shellfish off rocks, anything that requires some muscle. i have my eyes on the aitor chullio de monte, does anyone know whether that knife has a full tang?




thanks




mike
 
Yo, Mike

Always nice to see a fellow Aussie on here. Where in Aus are you located?

The 710 would get my vote - if you're using it around salt water often, you may be better of going with the ATS-34 version for the corrosion resistance. I think it would definitely be worth buying a used one from the for sale forum here, especially if it's for a daily beater/user, you'll get it much cheaper than a new one, and VASTLY cheaper than anything you'll find in Aus.

The Aitor has a fairly good reputation, however, It's a knife, not a pry bar, and if you try to pry mussels off rocks, you'll snap the tip off. I'm sure there is some little widget that will do the job better. If you're determined to use a knife check out some cheap carbon steel blades, such as those from Cold Steel or Ontario (spec plus). Buy something with a big, thick tip.

The biggest piece of advise is, but from dealers and or individuals in America. You can use postal money orders or a credit card (depending on the seller). You'll save an incredible amount of money doing this.

Now, one thing is - It is NOT illegal to carry knives. The day they outlaw that completely is the day i find somewhere else to live. The law states that you must have reason to have the knife - hence you need to know what to say when asked. My spiel is along the lines of "Daily utility, opening packages, cutting food, cutting fruit, trimming threads, etc....."

Hope I helped. Let me know if i can assist any more....

James
 
im from canberra.


yeah its probably better if i just use the screw driver bit on my leatherman for the mussles:)


what would be a good "camp" knife, for splitting bits of wood to be burnt on camp fires and general chopping.

ive been on a few hiking trips and i suppose its not really necessary to carry a large fixed blade, i mean ive done pretty well with just my leatherman wave(very nice little gadget). i guess i dont really need a big fixed blade knife, but they do look pretty cool :)

i thought they brought out a law a few years back that limited the length of the blade down to like 3 inchs or something, which means a swiss army knife would even be ilegal. i dunno, i dont plan to carry anything apart from my leatherman around anyway, in public that is.

anyway, what are some of the activities on a hiking/camping trip that would require a big fixed blade(apart from looking the part:)



thanks for the advice





mike
 
oh by the way, do you know any good online stores that has discount knives and second hands?

have you bought stuff from america, were there any problems getting it into the country.


the exchange rate aint that great either right now



im interested in the aitors and the benchmades because the local "knigs of knives" stores stock them.



rav
 
Hi again Mike

I've had good experiences with 1sks and knifeoutlet, but you'll find that pretty much any place with a good reputation is a safe bet. Just check the good, bad and ugly forum and you'll quickly seed out any that aren't worth bothering with. I know the exchange rate isn't great, but if you do the math...

Benchmade 710 in my closest "knife shop" - $700 (Aus)

Same knife at 1SKS - 141 (US)

So, you double that, makes 300, add about 60 for shipping, and you're getting the same knife for about half the price....

If your local shop has better prices, by all means support it!! oh, and tell me where exactly it is :)

Check the for sale forum here for second hand knives, but as always, check GB&U before sending money. You should be fine, and 99.99% of forumites are GREAT to deal with, but there’s always a few A$$holes.

Camp knives – check out Cold steel, Ontario, Camillus (BK&T line), and if you want to step up a bit, I would unhesitatingly recommend Busse. They’re incredibly tough, use INFI proprietary steel, and have an unconditional, lifetime guarantee. Check out www.bussecombat.com . The basic series (a now discontinued, slightly cheaper line) are great knives, and can still be found at some dealers. My problem with Aitor isn’t the tang’s (I don’t think they’re full, but this isn’t as important as build quality), my problem is that they use cheap stainless (when I last checked), to make big camp knives. Not a good combo as far as i’m concerned.

I’ve never had any problems getting knives in to the country. Just as long as it’s not double edged (this includes sharpened false edges), a butterfly knife, gravity knife, flick knife, knuckle duster knife, knife with attached gun (don’t laugh, they make it....), ballistic knife. As long as you stay away from these, you’re fine. I got my SIFU in no probs, and that thing looks MEAN.

James
 
i can get the 710 here at "kings of knives" for AUS$365. i think there should be a few outlets in mel.
 
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