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Which is stronger.

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razorsdescent

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Which is stronger?

A Sebenza
A Emerson HD
A Strider SMF
or A strider RC



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I personally would think it would be the strider RC. But i ahve enver handled a strider folder. I only own stirder fixed so far. ( that will change soon.)

So if anyone has any of these knives. Which do you think is the strongest?

Thanks in advance for the info.
 
That is a very difficult question!! All of those are tough!! But which is the toughest? Hmmmmm........
 
razorsdescent said:
Which is stronger?

A Sebenza
A Emerson HD
A Strider SMF
or A strider RC



:confused:
I personally would think it would be the strider RC. But i ahve enver handled a strider folder. I only own stirder fixed so far. ( that will change soon.)

So if anyone has any of these knives. Which do you think is the strongest?

Thanks in advance for the info.
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Toss up between the SMF and the RC. I'd go with the RC because it is a newer Strider, and they (Striders) tend to get stronger as they are released. Neither the Sebbie nor the HD's have the Hinderer LBS, which I personally feel adds to the framelock's strength. The Striders also have thicker blades, and with a near perfect heat treat (Bos). Good luck.

Best wishes,
3G
 
Out of those knives I have only ever owned a Sebenza. It is a very well made, sturdy knife, but I would put money on the Strider RC being as tough as any folder. It seems to be built like the proverbial tank.
 
I'd say the RC or SMF. The Strider's are thicker and beefier. All things equal, the thicker piece of material will be stronger, and as far as I know, the titanium and S30V (or 154CM) of the listed knives are equal.

I have never handled an RC, and I have only handled (but not owned) an HD, but between the SMF and Sebenza (both of which I own), the SMF is definitly a stronger knife. The blade and frames are just so much thicker, the pivot is larger, the lock has the Hinderer stabilizer, and the factory edge is more obtuse.

Some people do not trust Strider's locks because they do not make as much contact to the tang as CRKs, but I feel that both school of lock design (more contact versus less contact) are means to the same ends and both can make for a very good lock when done right. I think the Sebenza and SMF each do their respective school of lock design right, and both locks have few if any reported failures.

Like everyone said above, all 4 are very tough, strong knives. The Sebenza is very well-built and strong, but it is not overbuilt like the Striders are. The HD's would be inbetween.
 
I think they are all going to be about the same. What type of strength are we talking about here? If we are talking about the blade? They are both made of the same steel. Lock? Well same type of lock, but the Strider has the Hinderer lock stabalizer. I don't think you will be able to really push any of them beyond thier intended use.
 
If we are talking lock strength, I'd put a Spyderco Manix above all of them. That's my definiton of a tough folder.
 
Yeah you really need to operationally define exactly what you want "strong" to mean.

The amount of lateral force the lock can withstand? Or the blade?
Toughness of the blade during chopping or other high impact?
A million other things I can't think of right now?

In general, I suppose it would be the SMF, but they're all durable folders that will serve you well.

Good luck.
 
I think he means overall. Yes, "strong" can mean many things and there are many parts of the knives that can be tested or be the weak link, but the Striders are stronger in most ways than the other two and their weak links would hold out the longest.

J85909266- A test of all 5 knives' locks would be very interesting. I think all 5 would perform very well. The Manix might win if the lock is the only thing being tested, but I would not be surprised if its lock came in last either. I have not tested the lock on any of them, and thus, not got any of them to fail. But as strong as the Manix lock is, I cannot see it outperforming the above listed knives in any signifigant way, nor being outperformed signifigantly. I think with all 5 locks, we are talking about the 2 percentile.
 
My son has 'adopted' my Strider SMF, but my vote would be for the SMF.

Between Manix and SMF, they probably tie on lock-strength, but the 'bull pivot' of the SMF is probably the strongest pivot available in any folding knife.

Incidently, Strider now does their own heat-treating. They discontinued heat-treating by Paul Bos when Buck moved North.
 
I migtht vote for one of the striders iff you can get one that didn't get past QA/QC when it shouldn't have.
 
You need to define "stronger." But all things being equal, the recent dismal QC performance of strider plus the company's attitude problems should put strider out of the running. Even if the design was stronger, the execution of the knife is an unknown factor that could be potentially crippling. That's leaves you with Emerson and sebenza. Of the two, the sebenza also has a better QC reputation, however I believe the Emerson edges may be "stronger" by design than the slicing edge of a sebenza. There it would depend upon the application of the blade to determine which design was better.
 
The only knife out of the ones mentioned that I own, is the Sebenza. It has consistant excellent quality, and is tough as nails. I have owned an Emerson in the past; a '98 Commander. And I feel that my Sebbies are built better. I dunno if it is tougher.That is hard for me to quantify.
 
sorry the trident knives new folder beats every folder known to date this puppy can do every thing that a fixed blade in its equivalant size can do. fixed blade meaning say the stider line of concealed fixed blades. THIS IS ONE BAD ASS MOFO. EXPENSIVE BUT WORTH THE CASH SORRY GUYS BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT ABOUT MIDDLE OF JUNE OR PICK ONE UP AT ''BLADE'' THAT SATURDAY THATS WHEN CATHY AND ''MAGIC'' WILL BE DOWN.
 
I have owned all of them, however briefly, and would say the SMF for overall strength but CRK for lockup hands down. I've had issues with both the Striders listed and an Emerson HD as far as lockbar travel, mating, and such and never ever had even one issue with a CRK. YMMV
 
combatready said:
sorry the trident knives new folder beats every folder known to date this puppy can do every thing that a fixed blade in its equivalant size can do. fixed blade meaning say the stider line of concealed fixed blades. THIS IS ONE BAD ASS MOFO. EXPENSIVE BUT WORTH THE CASH SORRY GUYS BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT ABOUT MIDDLE OF JUNE OR PICK ONE UP AT ''BLADE'' THAT SATURDAY THATS WHEN CATHY AND ''MAGIC'' WILL BE DOWN.
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If they aren't released yet how would you know how they compare? Do you already have one? Just wondering, they do look pretty sweet.
 
If you are going to get a Strider, MAKE SURE you check for quality control issues before you shell out the money. I have had 3 that all had blade play when new. The fit + finish is not even close to a Sebenza, but if you get a good one they are good knives. In my experience, Strider knives are not going to be perfect and some have flaws (sharpness, cosmetic etc..) When you accept those facts, thats when the real beast comes out. They are GREAT users and are meant to do so without fail. If you buy one from an on-line dealer, have them give it a quick check before they send it to you.
 
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