which is the tougher knife, Buck strider or REKAT Sifu

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I looked up some reviews on the strider and everyone said that it was the toughest folder in production, that it was basically an integral lock with scales, and that it was a folding prybar. Recently there was a thread about REKATs being tough as tanks, and hard use knives. Now I want a knife that will replace my xl voager which is a good knife for 38 dollars, but who's zytel handle just doesen't have the toughness that I want. This voyager is the right size, but it's handle is thin and it flexes and I hate that. I don't care about blade shapes or usefullness right now, I just want to know which knife can take more abuse--so that encompases lock sturdiness and handle sturdiness. I basically want to know which of these knives is closest to an SRK?
 
Ok, you mean the SRK as in the Fixed blade Cold steel manufactures?

If so - The Sifu has a 5.5 inch blade, much closer to the 6 of the SRK.

The strider is a tanto.

Other than that, they're both fairly dissimilar to the SRK....

As for toughness.....

I have no idea on the strider, but i own a sifu. I would feel confident uding the sifu in any kind of fight (Where i had no better options, eg an escape route or a cocked .45) And have done some light chopping with it. It's as tough as i would ever expect a folder to be, and the lock holds about 900 pounds according to 1sks.

Howeve, having never handled a strider, the best i can do is give the Sifu my hearty reccomendation.

James

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The beast we are, lest the beast we become.
 
I have a Sifu and just sold a Strider and wish I hadn't They are both strong knives, but from the sound of your wants, I'd go with the Strider. My impressions with the Sifu have always centered around its size, strength and great sweet spot, but with the Strider, it was always the feeling that the knife was bulletproof. My only dislike being the unsharpened tanto edge.

Jake
 
The Strider/Buck folder is a liner not an integral lock. The breakpoint stats on it however are nice and high :

http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000452.html

The Strider guys are also serious about their work and fully back their products so you can be confident in using their blades. I think that Buck actually handles the folder but as far as I know they have a full warrenty as well.

As for REKAT, the break point, last I heard from Spyderco, is 1000 in.lbs of torque. While it is true that it will hold 900 lbs at some point, you can't actually hold the knife and exert the force at this point, so it is nothing but hype. A regular grip will generate 1000 in.lbs of torque with a much lower force requirement than 900 lbs.

-Cliff
 
Thanks for the info. When I said SRK I basically ment a prybar since that particular knife always seems to come up when talking about sharpened prybars. It sounds like the strider might be what I'm looking for because I'm tired of folders with thin handles that don't fill the hand, and handles that flex when the blade is torqued sideways. I only chose to compare the stider to the sifu since they are roughly the same price. The carnivor probably has a closer blade length. Cliff, are you saying that in the tests they put the 900lbs at a point closer to the pivot than an ordinary grip? That seems to be what those cold steel videos show when they are hanging 3-4 guys under thier trailmaster. The rope suspending them is placed so close to the handle blade junction that the knife would basically have to sheer before breaking.
 
generallobster,

I handled a Strider at a gun show this weekend and wasn't impressed. It is big and bulky feeling in my rather large hands. Just didn't do it for me. Too square, no rounded edges, felt like a box. I don't know if you have handled one yet, but I would suggest it prior to pruchase.

good luck,

John
 
Generallobster:

in the tests they put the 900lbs at a point closer to the pivot than an ordinary grip?
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Much closer yes. Quoting the break point in in.lbs of torque is very misleading as most people will assume that this translates roughly to the amount of force the blade can handle during use, when in fact it is vastly different. If you applied forces of that magnitude (900 lbs) with a normal grip you would snap the lock easily.

To be clear they should add a comment like "This level of torque translates to about 200 lbs of force depending on the grip used and hand size of the individual". But of course this sounds a lot less impressive than 1000 in.lbs of torque.

That seems to be what those cold steel videos show when they are hanging 3-4 guys under thier trailmaster. The rope suspending them is placed so close to the handle blade junction that the knife would basically have to sheer before breaking.
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Yes, this is exactly the point. There are many such things being used to promote blades. Often the obvious fact that it is a stunt and not an actual indication of an advantage is that there is never another blade used as a benchmark - mainly because just about any blade will often do the exact same thing. This obviously would not be very impressive.

-Cliff

[This message has been edited by Cliff Stamp (edited 10-04-2000).]
 
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