Which Multi-Tool Has the Best Knife to use as a Weapon?

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Considering ease of one-hand opening of a pointy blade and lock stability, which multi-tool would make the best weapon (using the knife as weapon)?

I believe I'll be wanting to carry one soon to a place where weapons might be frowned upon, but a multi-tool might get a pass, so with which multi-tool would I be best equipped to handle social emergencies?
 
I would think the new Victorinox Rescue tool. One handed blade opening and you could use the glass breaker as an impact tool. Plus it has rescue written all over it and with those colors it will be very easy to tell the judge that you carry it for emergencies which is what it was really built for.
 
it's hard to beat the one-handed opening of the Leatherman Surge/Wave/Charge
 
In a fight, you go with what you have. As a weapon, any of them will do, but in preparing for self defense, none of the available multi-tools seems like a good choice, no matter how pointy or what steel. There just isn't enough time to deploy the blades on any of them, except for the previously mentioned Leathermen, but I wouldn't trust the lock on those, having had a bad experience with one on a Charge.

On the one occasion I almost got into it, I was prepared to use my Super Tool as a fist weight or striking weapon. That seems to be the natural way to use them at a time of high adrenaline and consequent loss of fine muscle control. Personally, the only knife I would carry as a bladed weapon would be fixed or auto because under duress, that's all I could manage.

If anyone has a real need to go armed, it should be compelling enough to carry an actual weapon, regardless of the legal consequences. Otherwise, don't go there or do that ;) .

BTW, although in the course of my life (I'm an older guy) there have been many dangerous social situations, I have never been in one where a weapon would have done me the least good.
 
perdicea said:
I would think the new Victorinox Rescue tool. One handed blade opening and you could use the glass breaker as an impact tool. Plus it has rescue written all over it and with those colors it will be very easy to tell the judge that you carry it for emergencies which is what it was really built for.
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Pretty good idea. I would include any of the Vic/Wenger 111mm/120mm OH models to the list. The new Leatherman knives (cr305??) also come to mind, but you would need some sort of flipper added.
 
You know this, but let me reiterate it for giggles. :thumbup:

Skill, luck, motivation and many other factors play much more of a role in the defensive (or offensive) use of a blade, than does the actual knife thats being used. At least thats my fleabrained opinion.

I work in a state court and recently worked on a manslaughter case where actor #1 used a teeny little no-name blade, something about the size of a Spydie Dragonfly, to spin around 180 degrees and slice the throat of actor #2, who immediately stopped being an A-hole and died several hours later. Guy #3 had a large kitchen knife and inflicted only superficial wounds on actor #4. Point being that one might have anticipated that the big kitchen knife would inflict the worst wound, but that wasn't what happened.

This is not to say that your question isn't a good one, because it is. But if TSHTF, it won't matter so much which blade you have in your hand, but how you use it. JMO.

I'm a Wave guy, but also think the Rescue tool is a pretty good idea.

cheers
 
:cool: I'm reminded of the old adage - "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight!" Good advice. Unless you are a very well trained knife man, trying to use a knife in a fight is a dangerous deal. I know, some will say it's better than dying and I agree, just beware of the risks and the legal fallout if you win. I have seen many good people "winners" go to prison and/or get sued for everything they ever hope to own by the poor "victim" or their family.
 
feline has responded so nicely to you........

im reminded of STUPID

why would you decide to go someplace that you think youll need a weapon 'socially'?

id be asking 'who knows a good lawyer'? if I were you
 
stevedenver said:
why would you decide to go someplace that you think youll need a weapon socially?
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Where do you go that you're sure you wouldn't need a weapon?
Or in other words, what's wrong with being prepared?

medusaoblongata said:
I believe I'll be wanting to carry one soon to a place where weapons might be frowned upon, but a multi-tool might get a pass, so with which multi-tool would I be best equipped to handle social emergencies?
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I don't read the OP as looking for trouble, just being more comfortable having some tool he could rely on, if ...

One of the worst situations to be put in is to have to go someplace that makes a big deal out of banning "weapons". This makes everyone who goes there a target of enhanced interest to the bad guys.
 
You might be able to get away with this unnoticed.

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Esav Benyamin said:
Where do you go that you're sure you wouldn't need a weapon?
Or in other words, what's wrong with being prepared?



I don't read the OP as looking for trouble, just being more comfortable having some tool he could rely on, if ...

One of the worst situations to be put in is to have to go someplace that makes a big deal out of banning "weapons". This makes everyone who goes there a target of enhanced interest to the bad guys.
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one of the things i like about SAKs-the standard size-is that gerenally they are non threatening and familiar as opposed to a tactical knife -this alone can create a better situation-

agree with the second statement-if this is the mindset of some around you, why would you think that ony you are clever enough to sneak in a weapon? and if folks are the type to carry weapons why the hell be there-may therell be more of them than you -with a weapon-one thing it seems is that if someone want to make you a victim, chances are you might not realize it until things are a little more than underway-id be far more inclined to have something to deflect a knife-or a good pair of running shoes

my point is not to avoid all situations, but to avoid them if you can-kinda like chosing to drive on the icy storm night just because-you probably wont have any problems -but ......

theres no place you might not need something, an umbrella, a gun, a drink...but in 51 years of travel and life...ive never needed a weapon...

but more to my point....preparation...it isnt about carrying a weapon because you might need it...to me its avoiding the situation in the first place...any martial arts teacher will tell you this

also of concern is the mental state of mind ...carrying a weapon might indicate the mind set to perhaps be over confident or willing to confront when there may be another option-and to me the best option is to always back down, split, anything to avoid a fight if possible-

...but if one thinks this is a really possibility-why put yourself in the scene at all?

i guess as a lawyer, if you had any clue how much $$$ it would cost to deal with a criminal assault or weapons charge, the danger to your future employability with such a conviction, etc etc,

youd be thinking five times-this is like drinking and driving-the $40 cab ride should look cheap compared to the $10k a DUI will ultimately run you in atty fees, remedial classes, insurance, and time-
 
Avoiding the situation ... avoiding life. You can't always avoid because the most innocuous situation becomes a problem when the bad guys decide the nice neighborhood is easier pickings with a better payoff.

All the original poster is looking for is a tool he can have that is not an overt weapon, but that might be some use if trouble comes looking for him.
 
Wow I gotta say out of the last 8ish years of being on internet boards this very thread may have the most sage and mature opinion I have ever seen.

So many possible sig quotes here!

Im not sure how easy the assisted opening blades will be to open on the new Sog tool that comes out next month actually are but I know the blade in my Sog power lock is EXTREAMLY sharp! Push cut? Pshaw!
 
Get the heaviest one you can find...it does not matter what brand.

Put it in a thick sock.

Now you have a very effective self-defense weapon!;)
 
I've always thought that the gears on a SOG muli-tool which can eat into your hands could do a nasty job on somebody's face if swung the right way. Same thinking as AllenC - don't worry about cutting or stabing, but rather look for something solid and heavy (and maybe pointy if you pick the SOG) then pratice on how to wield it and where to strike with it.
 
I don't know about using the knife but the gear ends on the SOG Powerlock combined with its weight would make one hell of an impact weapon.
 
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