Which stainless is Bark River using?

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Ok gang...as you can tell, I'm a noob, so go easy!

From most of the online literature, it appears that Bark River uses 154 CM for several of the blades, but when I went to "The Knife Connection", they said that it is actually CPM 154. I understand that CPM 154 is Crucible Metal's version of the original 154 CM, but I would like to know which version Bark River actually use. From what I read, Crucible's CPM 154 is a lot cleaner than the original 154 CM.

Anyhow...so ends my question. Thanks!

Nick
 
They use both and a bunch of Sanvik stuff ......... and probably others .... depends on the knife.
 
The 'SS' version of their popular Bravo1:

"The Stainless version of the Bravo-1 is identical to the Standard Bravo-1 except it is made from the New Crucible CPM 154 Stainless Steel.

CPM 154 is the Powdered Metal Version of the original 154CM. Powdered metal Steels have much Finer Grain Structure than their Standard Equivalent."

Also - Highland Special comes in CPM S35VN, Liten Bror and Lil Canadian both come in CPM 3V. Lastly there's a Little Creek that comes in CTS 40CP a powder metal version of 440C.

Most of Mike's blades are A2 but he's been dabbling more and more in a variety of steels.
 
Crucible filed for chapter 11 last year, so I don't think CPM154 will be commonly used outside the SS Bravos.
 
Crucible is making steel !!!! My personal all round favorite is CPM154.It's very popular with custom makers ! CPM154 ,as mentioned, is very different from 154CM in the way it's made .Crucible and it's CPM steels are not going away !!
 
They have used:
3v
cpm 154
carpenter steel
sandvik

Basically, a whole bunch of different ones.

They really know how to mix it up and keep things lively.


Ron LaBella
 
I don't think you have to worry about whatever steel Bark River is using. Mike Stewart is a master at heat treat and getting the best out of any steel IHMO. My experience with with Mike's 52100 (Marble's) and A2 (Bark River) is very positive.
 
Varg Lobos said:
Yes, you Drop Point Hunter is in 154 cm. Why is that odd that they use different steels?
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It's just a different perspective, I guess. I work for a manufacturing company, and we focus on reducing complexity, especially on raw materials. CPM154 and 154 CM are kissing cousins, and I would assume that he would just carry one or the other.

Like I said, I come from a large manufacturing company, and my perspect probably isn't valid in this case.
 
newbie_nick said:
It's just a different perspective, I guess. I work for a manufacturing company, and we focus on reducing complexity, especially on raw materials. CPM154 and 154 CM are kissing cousins, and I would assume that he would just carry one or the other.

Like I said, I come from a large manufacturing company, and my perspect probably isn't valid in this case.
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Those two are pretty different in all reality. Especially price-wise.
 
Stainless Steels used by Bark River:


440C
12C27
N685
13C26
19C27
154CM
CPM-154
CTS-XHP
CTS-40CP
CPM-S35VN

I even have a CPM-S30V custom made by Jim Stewart.



Most likely SS for current production:


154CM
19C27
CPM-S35VN








Big Mike
 
Big Mike said:
Stainless Steels used by Bark River:


440C
12C27
N685
13C26
19C27
154CM
CPM-154
CTS-XHP
CTS-40CP
CPM-S35VN

I even have a CPM-S30V custom made by Jim Stewart.


Most likely SS for current production:


154CM
19C27
CPM-S35VN


Big Mike
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Wow...that's quite a list, including some that I've never heard of! N685 and CTS-XHP, most notably.
 
newbie_nick said:
Wow...that's quite a list, including some that I've never heard of! N685 and CTS-XHP, most notably.
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Bohler N685 is similar to some of the 440 stainless steels, but is very pure and fine grained.

Bark River used it in the forged Forester/Clax series, and in the Blackwater Boot Knife-II (BBK-II).



The XHP is a particle steel from Carpenter that is touted as being a Stainless D2.

Bark River did a small run (40 Knives +/- ?) of Woodland Specials in this steel.




Big Mike
 
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