Which Tommy?

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marsupial

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Hey tomahawkers,I've been thinkin about gettin a good tommy but cant decide which one.I dont like the VN tommy that much but I want one that is light,but will still chop wood if needed.How do the skeleton handled ones do as far as a good backpack survival tool,do they chop well or less so than the handled ones? Input,input,Gracias!
 
I would choose the VN tactical. You won't be sorry.
 
Hello Marsupial. I am curious why you don't really like the VN tactical that much. I share the feeling. I'd like it better if the blade had just a touch of rocker (curve) to it. Maybe ATC should offer it in two versions; one straight, one curved.
 
Thats exactly why,and the only reason I dont like the VN Tommy because of its flat blade.I want something with a little more belly in it.The one I really like is the new production hawk,the one with the black handle and wicked curved blade.The only thing holdin me back is the price.The light belt axe is the one I am thinkin about right now,it looks like what I am wantin.
 
It seems Marsupial and I have been thinking pretty much exactly the same way about this. I too am considering a Brend.
 
I also would opt for the VNT, it just depends on what you are going to ask of your choice of tools.
This is just my thinking on the shape of the VN Hawk and why I like the fact that the head has a flat cutting surface. I look at it as the flat top sharped edge of a Bowie, designed to cut flesh and dig it as it goes but at the same time sharp enough and tough enough to chop through other mediums.
The VNT will handle field chores well enough also.
Maybe Andy has some insider facts on why the VN Hawk has a flat cutting dege, I'm sure it didn't become that way through happenstance.
Take care. Dean
 
For this problem there is only one solution:
Hayes Hawk
You will love it:D
Greetings
T.H(very proud owner of a Hayes)
 
Dean is right. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING on the Vietnam Tomahawk is there by chance. Peter experimented with endless design concepts to get what he wanted. In fact, about a year ago, I asked Peter what he would do to improve the Vietnam Tomahawk design. "NOTHING!" he said, and looked at me like I was derranged for asking. I bowed my head in obedience. :D

Peter LaGana prototyped his Tomahawks over the years with Meat Cleavers. Why? Because they "chop" flesh...and lots of it.

Most cleavers are indeed straight edged...massive cutting contact, massive cutting force distributed uniformly over its length, yielding massive effect.

The Vietnam Tomahawk had to fight, as well as dig, chop, pry, etc..

While the edge is straight, it is not parallel to the handle. It is offset, so the top point bites first...then the force driving the head efficiently deepens the bite, as the edge stays in the cut longer because of the offset.

Every impact cutting tool I have seen in industry, such as blanking blades on machinery, have offset, straight cutting edges. On a straight "chop", I don't think it gets more efficient that that.

Hope this helps...
 
Interesting info on the VN Tommy.It was my understanding that the VN tommy was primarily designed as an escape tool for chopper pilots during vietnam.It was supposed to be for chopping thru sheet metal and fuel containers as well as for opening crates,could this also be why it has a flat edge?
 
"Dean is right" let's all remember this.:rolleyes:
Andy, I like the Meatcleaver anology, makes perfect sence.
Andy, are you going to at the shop Mon. 23 Dec?
I have a few things I need to pass bye you, I'll call prior to lunch.
If my AM gets assed up I'll make comms ASAP
Take care. Dean
 
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