"Whispering Smith" Holster

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I was reading through Jungle Patrol, a history of the Philippines Constabulary force, when I came across a description of a very strange holster...

While Wood was serving as a Judge, General Bliss realized the position of the Lieutenant and sent him a shoulder holster that bore an interesting history. It was constructed so that a small, leather-covered piano wire fitted into the muzzle of the revolver, with a hand-spring circling the cylinder. When wanted, the gun would fairly leap into the hand. The holster had been given to General Bliss by his lifelong friend, "Whispering Smith," who had designed it and carried it for many years for the Santa Fe railroad, and who was rated as one of the fastest gun men of the early West.

The holster had been of particular interest to Wood, for his initial experience in Mindanao had almost been his last, due to a stiff holster. He had been a Third Lieutenant then, only three days in Mindanao, and had gone with a group of brother officers to the wedding of a friendly Moro. The other officers had worn no side arms, but Wood a youngster of twenty-one, had been proud of his new service revolver and holster, and had worn them. The officers were given a place of honor on a high platform.

The groom approached, with bales of silk, brass gongs, and a retinue of shackled slaves to complete the purchase of the bride. As the wedding party watched, one of the slaves escaped into the bush, and the young Moro was disconcerted and lacking in the payment. Hastily he asserted the prerogative of his rank and clapped the nearest of his men into the slave line. It was a matter that could be straightened out later, for this policy of degrading a free tribesman was contrary to Moro law.

The procession moved on, the young free Moro sullen in the slave line. The wedding got under way, and the slaves were seated on the floor in front of the officers' platform. As interest turned to the bride, the young free Moro seized a barong and went to work on the crowd. The slave keeper dropped, split from shoulder to pelvis; the Moro turned to the officers' platform.

Wood alone was armed--and his holster was stiff and new. For the longest seconds of his life he tugged at the weapon--it came free at last and the Moro went down under Wood's accurate fire.

That evening, a solemn-faced young Constabulary Lieutenant went to his quarters to accomplish an exemplary job of holster pruning.

Only the bit in bold describes the holster, the rest I included because it's a good story.

Anyways, I'm trying to imagine what such a contraption might look like or how it'd function. Any of you gun slingin' types ever heard of such a thing?

Whispering Smith seems like an interesting character...

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-whisperingsmith.html

They made a movie and TV series about him too apparently.
 
Not exactly the same, but with a similar idea, this patent from 1938 has a compressed spring pushing on the muzzle, released by the index finger pressing on a lever in front of the trigger:

March 1, 1938.
J. PRENETA
GUN HOLSTER
Patent Number 2,109,734

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US2109734.pdf

https://www.google.com/patents/US2109734?dq=2109734&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hLk2VaTtGcGooQTU_oHoCA&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAg
 
I use a Blackhawk Surpa holster in many different configurations. It consists of a polymer holster that has a screw for tension retention. It also has a button located near the trigger guard that must be depressed to draw the weapon. I have found this set up lightening fast while offering full 360 degree retention. I have one mounted to my tac vest right over my left breast. It hangs there securely using MOLLE attachment.

I have another Surpa I use for my 1911 officer model. It also offers the same level of retention and fast drawing ability. It offers a degree of safety from snatches or people trying to steal your weapon while holstered. The button has a cage around it which makes it difficult to manipulate unless you are the person wearing the holster.

Spring loaded holsters have been used in many competitions and shoots throughout the years. IPSC or International Plate Shooting Competition was a driving factor in the development of that style of holster. Most competitive shooters avoid spring loaded holsters in favor of a open style holster that uses a short stub that goes into the end of the barrel and a retention button near the trigger guard without any sides or material for the holster. It's just a skeleton carbon, or aluminum frame that offers lightening fast draws because you only need to press the button and the pistol release into the hand without the need to "pull up". You can actually draw in a without anything restricting the weapon. Good for competition but not combat.
 
Something about the idea of a spring loaded holster seems dangerous to me, but I suppose less dangerous than the prospect of letting a barong wielding maniac within striking distance.
 
even more dangerous is a POTUS who won't let you draw your sidearm, and encourages minorities to defy & resist police and even allow they can try to get your weapon away from you.

...and a knife wielding maniac will get you every time before you can draw if he is less than about 5 yards away when he starts unnoticed. there's a video somewhere where they did tests with police (and dummy knives) the blade sliced them well before they got their weapon out & anywhere neat alignment with the knifesman. just over 5 yds some cops could just about get off a shot. you've got to ask yourself one question...
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I don't think anything's more dangerous than a Moro... I was reading they'd take captured American soldiers, slit their bellies and nail the end of their lower intestines to tree. Then they'd force the soldier to walk around the tree to disembowel themselves .
 
21 feet is considered the legal lethal distance to use a gun against a knife attack. An attacker with a knife can close that distance in couple of seconds, about the same time it takes to draw and fire a weapon.

Now if you talking competition we need to bring a whole new set of numbers into the mix. I shoot IPSC and plates all the time. The test my club uses to place people in the proper shooting class consists of six, 8 inch steel plates, place in a horizontal row 30ft away.

The competition starts with your pistol in a holster draw... You hear a buzzer then... your weapon from your holster and see how fast you can shoot down the plates. I am in Class A and have been so since the age of 14 (tons of shooting at an early age). I and every other A and some B shooters can routinely knock down 6, 8in plates in under 3.5 seconds from a holstered weapon. We don't use compensators or ported barrels or any other tricks. You must have a stock pistol with no porting. You can however work on the trigger. Mine is set @ 3.5# out of my S&W 1911TA

I am confident that if I stay calm I can get 6 headshots on 6 different people in under 4 seconds from a holstered weapon. IPSC is a lot of fun and I encourage anyone interested to look into it.
 
I don't think anything's more dangerous than a Moro... I was reading they'd take captured American soldiers, slit their bellies and nail the end of their lower intestines to tree. Then they'd force the soldier to walk around the tree to disembowel themselves .

I would rather get shot dead trying to steal one of their side arms or rifles when they were marching now the line for execution. I would never go quietly like that, they would have to shoot me dead before I ever cooperated with my own death. From my cold dead hands baby. Never surrender, fight to the death. Im sure you don't see to many Gurkha prisoners of war.
 
They'd prod them with their swords to make them move, I assume their hands were bound up some how. Or they'd cut their feet off and make them stand in quicksand. I don't quite understand that one though. How would that be more deadly than just making you stand in quicksand with your feet still attached?
 
I am confident that if I stay calm I can get 6 headshots on 6 different people in under 4 seconds from a holstered weapon. IPSC is a lot of fun and I encourage anyone interested to look into it.
It's waaaaay different when all the thinkboxes to be ventilated are bobbing around and sprinting...force on force with greengas airsoft or sim rounds (owwww) is a wicked eye opener.
 
It's waaaaay different when all the thinkboxes to be ventilated are bobbing around and sprinting...force on force with greengas airsoft or sim rounds (owwww) is a wicked eye opener.

Yeah I hear you... I wish I could find a bunch of guys to do some green gas rounds with. I'm pushin 40 and my friends are getting old and lazy. I also realize that things are a bit different when the targets shoot back. I see you are familiar with IPSC style terminology. I have become unfazed by the sound of gun fire over many years of shooting. I NEVER flinch!!! I can attest and swear to that.

I'm sure you know the fundamentals of shooting accurately. Your point about moving targets is a valid one ... front sight focus goes out the window when engaging multiple targets at distance. We should really get together some point and do some shooting. I know a lot of people like to talk a good game. I would like to prove my shooting skills in person :D.
I have pretty extensive training in all things guns except for skeet and trap. I never had an interest in the scattergun.

My main passion are pistols and machine guns. My father in law has class3 and a ton of full autos, Vector Uzi's, MP5 now but he puts that auto seat in a couple HK's ( G3 and hk93), .380 Mac 11, Swedish K, and a few others . Needless to say he is the coolest father inlaw
 
LOL, J.W. practically 3 decades since last I played with SESAMS and you can still see the scars on my knuckles from the hits. I swear my arthritis is twice as bad in the knuckles I got hit in than anywhere else.
 
LOL, J.W. practically 3 decades since last I played with SESAMS and you can still see the scars on my knuckles from the hits. I swear my arthritis is twice as bad in the knuckles I got hit in than anywhere else.
Yep, I got a pinkie knuckle broken with a simround-out of an M4 those little buggers are moving. Funny thing is the other round hit my conditioned knuckles (index and middle) and I didn't een know it until I saw the pink dust on my nomex. Thank you, steel plate conditioning regimen.
 
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