Whistling arrow video

[christcl]

Went shooting in the mountains with my friend and Chinese archery mentor.

Took a quick fun video of a whistling arrow for fun (turnup volume for max effect). Please excuse the bad release. My arrow landed to the left of the middle of the target on the bale about 6-7 inches.

Bow is a soon to be mine Cinnabar/Mariner Qing Dragon 2, 65#@36"
Arrow is a 200 grain 3Rivers whistling head mounted on a 100grain insert in a 32" 15.3GPI Byron Ferguson heavy carbon arrow.

[video=youtube;few4DKIO_sg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=few4DKIO_sg[/video]

 

[Jens Schuetz]

That got to turn a few heads on the range :-D
I don't shoot mine indoors and even outdoors just once. Thus its harder to pinpoint the culprit.

 

[Sleeper0311]

Wow. That wouldn't do the element of surprise any favors, but, a couple thousand let loose en masse would make an enemy force think they were being attacked by a horde of banshee!

Pretty cool in my book.

 

[Bookie]

I like it. Then again, I like anything I can actually hear!

 

[Shavru]

Wooohooo Looks (and sounds) like a lot of fun. You say you are acquiring the bow? and the howling arrow, is that yours already?

 

[christcl]

That got to turn a few heads on the range :-D
I don't shoot mine indoors and even outdoors just once. Thus its harder to pinpoint the culprit.

Hehe, actually I waited until we got into the trail shoots. Apparently, some of the regular range members would not appreciate something like this at the main range.

Wow. That wouldn't do the element of surprise any favors, but, a couple thousand let loose en masse would make an enemy force think they were being attacked by a horde of banshee!

Pretty cool in my book.

Thanks. Its easy to hear on a quiet tranquil mountain forest. At my home range right next to a busy freeway, the cars drown it out so its barely audible.

I like it. Then again, I like anything I can actually hear!

yes sir!

Wooohooo Looks (and sounds) like a lot of fun. You say you are acquiring the bow? and the howling arrow, is that yours already?

Yup, I have a #59 of the same model I am returning to my friend for credit and getting this one at #65. Working my way up to a #70 (pictured below), which I already have, but don't shoot with yet. I dry pull it for strength training, but until I'm strong enough to be able to shoot it decently, its not good to shoot too big of a gun that I can't control and shoot well.

And yes, the arrows are already mine. These Qing/Manchu bows need to shoot heavy/long arrows.

 

[gurkha berserka]

Ahhh... there is nothing more satisfying than audible feedback from an arrow. Thanks for posting and that is a nice bow.

 

[ndoghouse]

I have a really dumb question. Why? I mean why whistling? Whats the purpose? Im sure there must be but I just cant imagine a real reason. Tactical? Fear factor? Just curious. Really cool tho. Are there holes in the point that whistle? Ah! Maybe its to scare the deer away while you target practice?

Oh nevermind! ...I just asked my wife and she said "Why not?"

and yet another comment from the upper section.. "Oh so you can hear where its going!"

...guess it really was a dumb question

 

[christcl]

Ahhh... there is nothing more satisfying than audible feedback from an arrow. Thanks for posting and that is a nice bow.

thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!

I have a really dumb question. Why? I mean why whistling? Whats the purpose? Im sure there must be but I just cant imagine a real reason. Tactical? Fear factor? Just curious. Really cool tho. Are there holes in the point that whistle? Ah! Maybe its to scare the deer away while you target practice?

Oh nevermind! ...I just asked my wife and she said "Why not?"

and yet another comment from the upper section.. "Oh so you can hear where its going!"

...guess it really was a dumb question

no such thing as a dumb question! Its actually just for fun. I was already down one arrow that morning so I was like "Hey, let me try this whistling head and see how it does at longer range."

I've heard some people say that the whistling arrow will startle a deer before the second hunting arrow is launched, but I'm not sure how accurate this is.

I've also heard the fan boys say that the whistling arrow is used to signal in battle but like I mentioned earlier. At my home range next to a busy freeway, the traffic and city sounds drown out the whistle and you can barely hear it. Not sure how well its gonna do with thousands of men yelling, metal weapons clanging, bugles and drums, etc.

But yeah, just for fun.

 

[blue lander]

Very cool! I'd imagine a whistling arrow would be good for scaring horses.

This probably ought to be he subject of a separate thread, but I'm planning to buy an entry level Mongol/Manchu bow and I'd love to pick your brain at some point.

 

[Shavru]

This probably ought to be the subject of a separate thread, but I'm planning to buy an entry level Mongol/Manchu bow and I'd love to pick your brain at some point.

Would LOVE to "listen" in on that thread....

a #70 bow, that is a heavy pull and it would be silly to shoot that heavy a bow if you aren't ready for it. You would adopt all sorts of bad habits. Your plan makes much better sense to work up to it while still being able to use proper technique and position. By the time you reach the #70 you will already have all the proper habits of a good archer, with the strength to pull that bow. Instead of having to re-learn everything to get rid of the bad habits. Love seeing your bow, makes me wish I could get out and shoot a bit. Might have to harass hubby into having a bow or 2 checked for safe functionality. Afraid they might have delaminated or become brittle after all these years.

 

[Bawanna]

Don't most all arrows make a bit of a whistling sound. You have to be off to the side as the arrow travels by but they do sing a bit.
I know I've heard it a few times practicing with others.

I had a 75# compound I hunted with but it would no comparison to one of these as it dropped to about half at full draw.
Trying to hold 70 or 75# for any length of time would be difficult at best.
I too have thought about getting a light weight (girlyman) recurve to mess around with.
Shavru's concerns are valid. Several years ago my son wanted to get into archery hunting. I broke out my ole Martin Bobcat, dusted it off and tightened the limbs a bit for him to try. Fortunately as usual I thought I'd try it first for safety sake.
There was no second pull, parts and pieces flew all over the county, some pieces I never even found. My left arm looked like it went through a tenderizer. I still have what's left of it as a memorial but it's hunting days are long done.

 

[Scara]

Reminds me of when I was at the fieldhouse doing a lot of my physical therapy stretches after a run. I was sitting on the ground stretching when I suddenly heard this loud sound that startled me, like an angry bee sound nearby. I turned and looked, and a guy had just thrown a javelin. There's a big blue curtain thing that I now know is meant for practicing javelin throwing. That was a scary sound.

 

[blue lander]

My left arm looked like it went through a tenderizer. I still have what's left of it as a memorial but it's hunting days are long done.

Dang Bawanna! Do you keep what's left of your arm in a pickle barrel or something? Otherwise I'd think it would have started to smell by now

 

[Bawanna]

A little splash of Old Spice and I'm good to go. Actually the arm healed eventually. Sure did smart some, I nearly cried. The bow not so much.

 

[christcl]

Very cool! I'd imagine a whistling arrow would be good for scaring horses.

This probably ought to be he subject of a separate thread, but I'm planning to buy an entry level Mongol/Manchu bow and I'd love to pick your brain at some point.

Sure thing! Check out Peter Dekker's page called Fe Doro, its probably the most comprehensive and well researched website on Manchu-Qing dynasty bows and will cover aspects of Mongolian archery as well.

The contemporary traditional Mongolian bow is a more over built, compact, competition-sport intepretation of the Qing dynasty Manchu bow if I recall correctly. Most likely it was adopted by the Mongolians during the Qing dynasty, as their bow became the national standard for all of China and realms ruled by the Qing.

This one, called the Yuan-Khan by Mr Mariner, is a closer replica of what the Mongolian conquest era bow is.

Mr Mariner based it upon this painting of Kublai on a hunt.

On a side note, I've encountered a bit of hostility and resentment from ethnic Mongolians who insist that all this is stealing their culture.

Would LOVE to "listen" in on that thread....

a #70 bow, that is a heavy pull and it would be silly to shoot that heavy a bow if you aren't ready for it. You would adopt all sorts of bad habits. Your plan makes much better sense to work up to it while still being able to use proper technique and position. By the time you reach the #70 you will already have all the proper habits of a good archer, with the strength to pull that bow. Instead of having to re-learn everything to get rid of the bad habits. Love seeing your bow, makes me wish I could get out and shoot a bit. Might have to harass hubby into having a bow or 2 checked for safe functionality. Afraid they might have delaminated or become brittle after all these years.

Great advice Shavru! I need to make more time to train and build up to #70. The Yongzheng Emperor declared that #80 was the minimum for a military bow and many could pull up to #102 and more! Its a personal goal of mine to be able to shoot well with a close to this ancient military standard as possible.

Don't most all arrows make a bit of a whistling sound. You have to be off to the side as the arrow travels by but they do sing a bit.
I know I've heard it a few times practicing with others.

I had a 75# compound I hunted with but it would no comparison to one of these as it dropped to about half at full draw.
Trying to hold 70 or 75# for any length of time would be difficult at best.
I too have thought about getting a light weight (girlyman) recurve to mess around with.
Shavru's concerns are valid. Several years ago my son wanted to get into archery hunting. I broke out my ole Martin Bobcat, dusted it off and tightened the limbs a bit for him to try. Fortunately as usual I thought I'd try it first for safety sake.
There was no second pull, parts and pieces flew all over the county, some pieces I never even found. My left arm looked like it went through a tenderizer. I still have what's left of it as a memorial but it's hunting days are long done.

Yes sir! I wear eye pro!