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How interesting. If it lives a full life I imagine it will be an incredibly magical looking animal at full size.
This also reminds me of Hunter Thompson's lawyer in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He was based on a real life friend of HST though I can not remember the name. He wrote a play about himself called "The White Buffalo" that was later turned into a movie. I haven't seen either but have always wanted to.
This also reminds me of Hunter Thompson's lawyer in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He was based on a real life friend of HST though I can not remember the name. He wrote a play about himself called "The White Buffalo" that was later turned into a movie. I haven't seen either but have always wanted to.
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roughedges said:
Oscar Acosta-
And wasn't his the Brown Buffaloes?
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thanks for the name, I had totally forgot it. And I stand corrected, it is the brown buffalo. amazon.com (or amazon.co.uk anyways) is currently stocking his book.
I musta got the brown buffalo confused with a ted Nugent song!
I musta got the brown buffalo confused with a ted Nugent song!
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Rock on! I know that song. Hard to believe Ted Nugent did it since it is kind of an environmental song.
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Nasty said:
I don't think he does. Have you ever seen any of his hunting videos? I don't know his heart, but his videos tend to show a joy of killing more than a joy of hunting. I hunt and am all for harvesting game, but everything we take is a gift and I don't think he shows the proper respect to the spirit of the animals he kills.
I think he DOES love hunting and the outdoors, and I have seen him in concert many many times (and have the hearing loss to prove it) and like his guitar playing, but I think he is a terrible spokesperson for hunters and gun owners. Gimme Charlton Heston any day!
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Nasty said:
I heard that Ted tried to buy the one white buffalo that was born in Janesville WI a few years ago. I think that one turned greyish and has since died.
I love Buffalo. There used to be a few near where we used to live and we used to go visit them. Then there are the "Buffalo 600" 600 Native Americans that were taken from the town of Buffalo near me and sent to some museums. There is a big push to take them from the museums and re bury them in Buffalo. The Buffalo we used to visit were in Cornstalk which was named for Chief Cornstalk who was an indian leader murdered by the whites.
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It is happening more often these days. I photographed one that was born outside of Belle Fourche, SD, back in 2000. Wow... five years ago. It was a cute little thing. The owners reportedly packed up their ranch and buffalo and moved somewhere south.
Maybe it will happen in your lifetime Yvsa... we can only hope!
Alan
Maybe it will happen in your lifetime Yvsa... we can only hope!
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supposed to turn colors? White, yellow, red, brown and black? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere. Yvsa, does that sound right? Or did I smoke too much weed in my youth? :footinmou
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I was gonna say a person can't smoke too much weed but I know a couple of guys that belie that opinion.SilverFoxKnows said:
Frank I think it's something like that, and I could'a told you one way or another some time ago.
Since it's a Lakota legend I'm not real sure how it goes and it's been a long time since I read Black Elk.
I think you're pretty close though.
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The Legend of the White Buffalo
One summer a long time ago, the seven sacred council fires of the Lakota
Sioux came together and camped. The sun was strong and the people were
starving for there was no game.
Two young men went out to hunt. Along the way, the two men met a beautiful young woman dressed in white who floated as she walked. One man had bad desires for the woman and tried to touch her, but was consumed by a cloud and turned into a pile of bones.
The woman spoke to the second young man and said, "Return to your people and
tell them I am coming." This holy woman brought a wrapped bundle to the
people. She unwrapped the bundle giving to the people a sacred pipe and
teaching them how to use it to pray. "With this holy pipe, you will walk
like a living prayer," she said. The holy woman told the Sioux about the
value of the buffalo, the women and the children. "You are from Mother
Earth," she told the women, "What you are doing is as great as the warriors
do."
Before she left, she told the people she would return. As she walked away,
she rolled over four times, turning into a white female buffalo calf. It is
said after that day the Lakota honored their pipe, and buffalo were
plentiful. (from John Lame Deer's telling in 1967).
and
one site:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...ericans.com/MiracleTheWhiteBuffalo.htm&e=9717
excerpt from another site:
When the Calf Pipe was brought out 2 years ago, it gave us a good chance to really think about what that Pipe represents. To me, it's like the very center of the Lakota people, as well as what binds us together as a people. It's both the center of the medicine wheel, and the hoop of the medicine wheel. It's a powerful mystery, and yet there is also the tangible Pipe bundle. We are a fortunate people to still have that bundle, the physical center point of our people-hood and our spiritual history. After the Pipe, came the ceremonies, one by one, that offer spiritual guidance for us as we journey through this material life. And the White Buffalo Calf Woman said we'd go through tests and difficulties, and that she would return in the dawn of a new day. The way of the Pipe isn't dead, it's organic and it's alive.
When she said she'd return, it was a promise. Some of us believe that the promise has been fulfilled. We care a lot about our beliefs, and about being Indian. Others don't believe the promise is fulfilled, that's their right, too. One thing about Lakota ways that I'm really proud of is the respect for anothers vision, for their spiritual understanding. No need to condemn. It seems to me that to argue about spiritual belief would be most disrespectful of each other and of the Creator.
and this, an exerpt from Houghlin Miflin reader companion to U.S. women's history:
Because each nation values the integrity and reality of its unique belief system and often resents intrusion into them, and because this author is Lakota, the following discussion emphasizes Lakota beliefs and rituals and the undergirding premises of their lifeway.
The Lakota (Sioux), a Siouan-speaking, buffalo-hunting, and nomadic nation of the Northern Great Plains, epitomized the dominant society's notion of a "Warrior Society." This designation clearly obliterates the complementarity of genders in the economic, social, and ritual life of this group who battled for their land and way of life. Men, women, and winkte (Lakota term for male gender-crossing individual) all had designated and appreciated social roles in this society. The defeat of General Custer and the acceptance of the Ghost Dance, a Native movement that promised a reunion with deceased kinfolk, bountiful buffalo, and the disappearance of the immigrant Wasicu ("White" or European peoples), held great hope for a demoralized nation.
The aboriginal belief system was brought to the Lakota nation by the White Buffalo Calf Woman in the mythic past. The pipe she brought is symbolic of the union of the catlinite (red stone) bowl and the wooden stem, which represented male and female. The offering of the sacred pipe to an all-encompassing power (wakan), which permeated all thingsknown and unknownof the Lakota universe, was a powerful act. Along with the sacred pipe, the White Buffalo Calf Woman instructed the Lakota people in the seven sacred rites. These consist of the Pipe Offering, the Sun Dance, the Sweat Lodge, Spirit-Keeping (Mourning), Puberty Ceremony (girls), Vision Quest (boys), and Making of Relatives. These ceremonies correlated with the life cycle of males and females and were beautifully presented with music, dance, and recitation of oral traditions that fostered integration with the four cardinal virtues of the Lakota: generosity, fortitude, bravery, and wisdom. When each ceremony is viewed in context with the Native milieu, one can easily comprehend its affiliation with the cardinal virtues and the normative patterns of behavior. For example, young Lakota females who were virgins were chosen to chop the cottonwood tree in a ceremony that symbolized the unity of earth and sky while bringing honor to the extended family (tiospaye) and upholding womanly ideals (such as generosity) for emulation. Conversely, young Lakota males who pledged to dancewith thongs through their chest muscles and attached to the sacred SunDance treebrought good blessings and good welfare to their nation as well as fulfilling their own wishes and exemplifying bravery and fortitude. Aged men and women (who were chosen to enact the White Buffalo Calf Woman) displayed wisdom in intellectual knowledge and cultural transmission. The supreme Siouan prayer, Mitaku Oyasin, offered that "all my relatives" may live.
Buffalo population estimates range as high as EIGHTY MILLION before the white man and manifest destiny philosophy, as well as some political decisions to starve indians out of America, decimated the herds.
And finally, this...part of the transcript of John Neihadrt's Black Elk Speaks:
Origination of Peace Pipe
The Indians were in camp and they had a meeting to send scouts out to kill buffalo. The scouts were on top of a hill and as they looked to north in the distance something was appearing. They were going on, but they wanted to find out what it was and they kept looking and finally it came closer; then they found out it was a woman. Then one of the men said: "That is a woman coming." One of them had bad thoughts of her and one them said: "This is a sacred woman, throw all bad thots aside." She came up the hill where they were. She was very beautiful, her long hair hanging down and she had on a beautiful buckskin coat. She put down what she was carrying and covered it up with sage. She knew what they had in their minds. She said: "Probably you do not know me, but if you it to do as you think, come." So the one said to other, "That is what I told you, but you wouldn't listen to me." So one of the men went and just as he faced her, there was a cloud that came and covered them. The beautiful woman walked out of the cloud and stood there. Then the cloud blew off and the man was nothing but a skeleton with worms eating on it. That is what happened to him for being bad. She turned to the other one and said, "You shall go home and tell thy nation that I am coming. Therefore in the center of thy nation they shall build a big teepee and there I will come." So this man left at once and he was very scared, for his friend was a skeleton. He told the tribe what had happened and they all got excited and right away they prepared a place for her to come. They built a teepee right in the center and she was now in it. She put what she was carrying facing the East. All the people gathered right there. She sang a song as she entered the teepee:
"With visible breath I am walking.
A voice I am sending as I walk.
In a sacred manner I am walking.
With visible tracks I am walking.
In a sacred manner I am walking."
Then she presented the pipe to the chief. It was an ordinary pipe but there was a calf carved in one side and there were twelve eagle feathers tied on with a grass that never breaks. She said: "Behold this, for you shall multiply with this and a good nation thou shalt be. You shall get nothing but good from this pipe, so I want it to be in the hands of a good man and the good shall have the privilege of seeing it, but the bad shall not have the privilege of seeing it." This pipe is still in the possession of the Sioux. The first man who kept it was a man by the name of High Hollow Horn. The pipe is handed down from son to son.
She taught them to "keep spirits" and if a man's son dies, the man keeps a piece of his son's hair. This woman was really a white buffalo. Thus the respect for the white buffalo. She told them that when there was no food they should offer this pipe the Great Spirit and they would know from this pipe when they were going to have trouble. The pipe gets long at certain times and this means hard times. When it gets short the times are good. After she went back she sang another song. As she went it of the teepee everyone saw a white buffalo kicking up his hind legs and leaving in a hurry snorting as it went.
One summer a long time ago, the seven sacred council fires of the Lakota
Sioux came together and camped. The sun was strong and the people were
starving for there was no game.
Two young men went out to hunt. Along the way, the two men met a beautiful young woman dressed in white who floated as she walked. One man had bad desires for the woman and tried to touch her, but was consumed by a cloud and turned into a pile of bones.
The woman spoke to the second young man and said, "Return to your people and
tell them I am coming." This holy woman brought a wrapped bundle to the
people. She unwrapped the bundle giving to the people a sacred pipe and
teaching them how to use it to pray. "With this holy pipe, you will walk
like a living prayer," she said. The holy woman told the Sioux about the
value of the buffalo, the women and the children. "You are from Mother
Earth," she told the women, "What you are doing is as great as the warriors
do."
Before she left, she told the people she would return. As she walked away,
she rolled over four times, turning into a white female buffalo calf. It is
said after that day the Lakota honored their pipe, and buffalo were
plentiful. (from John Lame Deer's telling in 1967).
and
one site:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...ericans.com/MiracleTheWhiteBuffalo.htm&e=9717
excerpt from another site:
When the Calf Pipe was brought out 2 years ago, it gave us a good chance to really think about what that Pipe represents. To me, it's like the very center of the Lakota people, as well as what binds us together as a people. It's both the center of the medicine wheel, and the hoop of the medicine wheel. It's a powerful mystery, and yet there is also the tangible Pipe bundle. We are a fortunate people to still have that bundle, the physical center point of our people-hood and our spiritual history. After the Pipe, came the ceremonies, one by one, that offer spiritual guidance for us as we journey through this material life. And the White Buffalo Calf Woman said we'd go through tests and difficulties, and that she would return in the dawn of a new day. The way of the Pipe isn't dead, it's organic and it's alive.
When she said she'd return, it was a promise. Some of us believe that the promise has been fulfilled. We care a lot about our beliefs, and about being Indian. Others don't believe the promise is fulfilled, that's their right, too. One thing about Lakota ways that I'm really proud of is the respect for anothers vision, for their spiritual understanding. No need to condemn. It seems to me that to argue about spiritual belief would be most disrespectful of each other and of the Creator.
and this, an exerpt from Houghlin Miflin reader companion to U.S. women's history:
Because each nation values the integrity and reality of its unique belief system and often resents intrusion into them, and because this author is Lakota, the following discussion emphasizes Lakota beliefs and rituals and the undergirding premises of their lifeway.
The Lakota (Sioux), a Siouan-speaking, buffalo-hunting, and nomadic nation of the Northern Great Plains, epitomized the dominant society's notion of a "Warrior Society." This designation clearly obliterates the complementarity of genders in the economic, social, and ritual life of this group who battled for their land and way of life. Men, women, and winkte (Lakota term for male gender-crossing individual) all had designated and appreciated social roles in this society. The defeat of General Custer and the acceptance of the Ghost Dance, a Native movement that promised a reunion with deceased kinfolk, bountiful buffalo, and the disappearance of the immigrant Wasicu ("White" or European peoples), held great hope for a demoralized nation.
The aboriginal belief system was brought to the Lakota nation by the White Buffalo Calf Woman in the mythic past. The pipe she brought is symbolic of the union of the catlinite (red stone) bowl and the wooden stem, which represented male and female. The offering of the sacred pipe to an all-encompassing power (wakan), which permeated all thingsknown and unknownof the Lakota universe, was a powerful act. Along with the sacred pipe, the White Buffalo Calf Woman instructed the Lakota people in the seven sacred rites. These consist of the Pipe Offering, the Sun Dance, the Sweat Lodge, Spirit-Keeping (Mourning), Puberty Ceremony (girls), Vision Quest (boys), and Making of Relatives. These ceremonies correlated with the life cycle of males and females and were beautifully presented with music, dance, and recitation of oral traditions that fostered integration with the four cardinal virtues of the Lakota: generosity, fortitude, bravery, and wisdom. When each ceremony is viewed in context with the Native milieu, one can easily comprehend its affiliation with the cardinal virtues and the normative patterns of behavior. For example, young Lakota females who were virgins were chosen to chop the cottonwood tree in a ceremony that symbolized the unity of earth and sky while bringing honor to the extended family (tiospaye) and upholding womanly ideals (such as generosity) for emulation. Conversely, young Lakota males who pledged to dancewith thongs through their chest muscles and attached to the sacred SunDance treebrought good blessings and good welfare to their nation as well as fulfilling their own wishes and exemplifying bravery and fortitude. Aged men and women (who were chosen to enact the White Buffalo Calf Woman) displayed wisdom in intellectual knowledge and cultural transmission. The supreme Siouan prayer, Mitaku Oyasin, offered that "all my relatives" may live.
Buffalo population estimates range as high as EIGHTY MILLION before the white man and manifest destiny philosophy, as well as some political decisions to starve indians out of America, decimated the herds.
And finally, this...part of the transcript of John Neihadrt's Black Elk Speaks:
Origination of Peace Pipe
The Indians were in camp and they had a meeting to send scouts out to kill buffalo. The scouts were on top of a hill and as they looked to north in the distance something was appearing. They were going on, but they wanted to find out what it was and they kept looking and finally it came closer; then they found out it was a woman. Then one of the men said: "That is a woman coming." One of them had bad thoughts of her and one them said: "This is a sacred woman, throw all bad thots aside." She came up the hill where they were. She was very beautiful, her long hair hanging down and she had on a beautiful buckskin coat. She put down what she was carrying and covered it up with sage. She knew what they had in their minds. She said: "Probably you do not know me, but if you it to do as you think, come." So the one said to other, "That is what I told you, but you wouldn't listen to me." So one of the men went and just as he faced her, there was a cloud that came and covered them. The beautiful woman walked out of the cloud and stood there. Then the cloud blew off and the man was nothing but a skeleton with worms eating on it. That is what happened to him for being bad. She turned to the other one and said, "You shall go home and tell thy nation that I am coming. Therefore in the center of thy nation they shall build a big teepee and there I will come." So this man left at once and he was very scared, for his friend was a skeleton. He told the tribe what had happened and they all got excited and right away they prepared a place for her to come. They built a teepee right in the center and she was now in it. She put what she was carrying facing the East. All the people gathered right there. She sang a song as she entered the teepee:
"With visible breath I am walking.
A voice I am sending as I walk.
In a sacred manner I am walking.
With visible tracks I am walking.
In a sacred manner I am walking."
Then she presented the pipe to the chief. It was an ordinary pipe but there was a calf carved in one side and there were twelve eagle feathers tied on with a grass that never breaks. She said: "Behold this, for you shall multiply with this and a good nation thou shalt be. You shall get nothing but good from this pipe, so I want it to be in the hands of a good man and the good shall have the privilege of seeing it, but the bad shall not have the privilege of seeing it." This pipe is still in the possession of the Sioux. The first man who kept it was a man by the name of High Hollow Horn. The pipe is handed down from son to son.
She taught them to "keep spirits" and if a man's son dies, the man keeps a piece of his son's hair. This woman was really a white buffalo. Thus the respect for the white buffalo. She told them that when there was no food they should offer this pipe the Great Spirit and they would know from this pipe when they were going to have trouble. The pipe gets long at certain times and this means hard times. When it gets short the times are good. After she went back she sang another song. As she went it of the teepee everyone saw a white buffalo kicking up his hind legs and leaving in a hurry snorting as it went.
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Anyone else find it interesting that the father of the White Buffalo was a Great Chief and was struck down on Sept. 11th, 2001.
That was a powerful day in the world. This great bull was struck by lightning the same day, then his seed goes on to produce the mythical White Buffalo.
That is the stuff of legend.
Thanks for the stories Kismet.
That was a powerful day in the world. This great bull was struck by lightning the same day, then his seed goes on to produce the mythical White Buffalo.
That is the stuff of legend.
Thanks for the stories Kismet.
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Yvsa said:
That is one of the saddest books I have ever read. I think I cried through most of it. I think it should be required reading in every school.
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Black Elk had long since converted to Christianity at the time Neihardt wrote it all down. Still a great book in my opinion, and one of my favorites. Very sad reading.
