who has a pride - do you like it

DaveH

DaveH

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I saw sothat some le had one, but do you like it?

Looks like a Salsa without the lock. Is there a pretty firm spring? Does the thumb hole still work as before?

Thanks,
 
Not really a Salsa, but more a Navigator with out the lock. It's okay, but get a navigator instead.

Sal is right...the navigator is more $$$, but well worth it to anyone that has ever had stitches due to a slip joint.
 
The the Navigator and Pride have an almost identical pattern, the Navigator is considerably more expensive, but a very classy piece.

sal
 
Handled a pride and was overall impressed.

But I couldn't bring myself to buy a japanese made knife with the american flag on it, seems like an insult to me.
 
Hi Youngcutter. There are some that share your point of view.

I would suggest that you investigate your values a little deeper. Many (probably most) of the American flags that are being displayed on autos and homes are made in China. Just about all of the American Flag pins that "everyone" is wearing these days are made in China. The American flag on the Pride as well as the Japanese, German, Divers flags, etc are all made in China.

My "Japanese" Toyota is made in America. Many of the "American" Jeeps are made in China.

I think that "Country of origin" is changing in its significance in recent years. In Europe, where no "Country of Origin" is required to be on the product, many products are made in China and sold as though they were not.

I think that it is both important and wise to support our Country, where ever possible. A USA made Pride, with a USA made flag made to the current "Pride" quality standard would no longer be a "price point" model and would probably cost twice the amount.

sal
 
Sal, I understand the reasoning for building it where you did. However, I am one who also finds it insulting to see the chinese made flags on the japanese automobiles and such as you specify.

Which is why i'm proud to say that: My Home is American made, the cars in it are american made, the flag that waves on it is american made, and so on and so forth, and even the american flag pin my dad wears is american made.
For whatever it's worth, I own but two foreign-made knives currently, 1 is a Taiwanese made Outdoor Edge Magna (i've never had a problem with the taiwanese) and the other is a Spyderco VG-10 Endura, just purchasing the endura took several months of struggling wtih myself, but I decided that Japanese made knives were ok sometimes.
Did I really understand you correctly that the handles of the Pride are made in China?
 
I'd be willing to bet you that parts of your home and your cars were made somewhere outside of this country. Got to agree with Sal on this one.
Matt
 
I'm sure, but the fact that certain components are foreign-made is not a legimate excuse to violate what I believe to be right or wrong. And I just wouldn't feel ok owning a knife brandishing the American flag made in a country that a short 57 years ago was our enemy.
I'm not trying to say the Pride sucks or anything, I liked it as a knife, really I did. But I just wouldn't be in tune with my conscience by owning one. I'd be more ok with one sporting the Japanese flag than Ol' Glory.

Maybe i'm "overly patriotic", but that's not my problem.
 
YC: realize that many of your sentiments about foreign country made stuff were reciprocated elseware.
I have no problem using products made elsewhere. As long as I know that the quality is kept up to standard, and if one does slip, it would be dealt with swiftly, there would be no problem.
Don't be so "overly-patriotic" about things made elsewhere. You'll drive yourself nuts that way.
Even if the item is branded Made in USA, I wouldn't guarantee that all parts are really from USA. Personally it doesn't really mean much.
Sal: Either way, keep up the good work with your stuff. I can't wait until I got enough money to start my project with Glasshartt ;)
 
YC,

I'm sorry I can't leave this one alone. Do you still drive/ride in cars that use fuel from Saudi Arabia that sent us terrorists that killed 3K of our citizens not even a year ago?

Sorry, but in our current world, with our current lifestyle, it's not possible to practice MADE IN USA only.

Also I'm not trying or trying to belittle patriotism.
 
DaveH,

I totally understand. No, the products I use are not 100% made in the usa, but I don't feel like that's an excuse to give up trying.
 
Everyone was the enemy at some point, even us Canadians! I bet the Japanese never burned down the White House like we did! You have to let go of the old grudges sometime. The Japanese are our friends now and have been for over 50 years. Maybe they won't be in the future and then you can boycott them reasonably.
 
YC. Spyderco is a USA company and quite proud of it. We design our own products here in the USA. Most of the engineering is done right here in the USA. Many of our products are made in Golden, Colorado by Americans that are both proud of their work and proud to be Americans. We are aware of your feelings and the feelings of others in our running of the company. We all try our best, but pobody's nerfect. Even the President is wearing a USA flag while giving speeches on TV, that I would bet is also made oin China.

We respect your opinion, and I can's say that I disagree, but we also have to sell product in a competitive market that is very often an import.

sal
 
Like I said, Sal. I understand, economics do come into play, and I can appreciate your circumstances.

numberthree, I usually require at least 100 years before losing a grudge :)
Seriously though, can you honestly say that the Japanese are really our "friends" these days? Or do they merely tolerate us to forward their own economic agendas? (not that I blame them, but I don't confuse alliances with friendships)
 
YC. I try not to blame my grandchildren for their grandfather's poor judgement. The only things that are REALLY new are babies and tomorrow. It is important for our future to learn from our errors but always look towards a better future, lest we get lost in the unchanging past.

We Americans have made a few enemies (errors) in the past as well, even really close to home.

sal
 
Young Cutter,

Since you brought of the subject of "American Made" Are you "American Made"? If you trace your ancestory back your probably european, with a good mix of other cultures in the line as well. Most "Americans" are a Mix of all the cultures of the globe.

At least the Pride is made by an American owned company. I'd also bet your house and car's were produced with products manufactured by Non-American owned companies.


Just my 2cents.;)
 
If it interests you, Raden, I am mostly Irish, German, and Native American, with a dash of Mexican for flavor.

I suppose Sal has a point with his optemism, but then again, i'm a notorious cynic :)
 
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