Who has the oldest Buck?

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Bighaze51

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The only thing I like more than knives is really old ones. So, my question is, who on here has the oldest Buck? Let's see it!!
 
Not me. My guess is Hkingdom

Oldest I got is 3rd version 6th variation 110

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Some of Joe's displayed vintage collection from previous OKCA meets, 2010, 2011 & 2012 (Joe married into the Buck family and his lovely wife, who was kind enough to act as a hand model for my photography one year, has quite a collection herself):

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I think this may be my oldest. It is a Group One Circa 1930-46. I believe this one to be made in the mid-40s. It is stamped BUCK. Each letter of the word BUCK was individually stamped. This knife was called a model 104 camper.

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This subject can be argued because the data is scars and pre factory knives were what the buyer wanted it to be.

This is a fillet knife, stamped in the fashion that a category 1 knife would be stamped. It has the large, individually stamped letters on the right side of the blade, and an ornate handle. All aspects point to a category one knife except it is stamped with a model number, again with large letters. It doesn't make sense. It may even be pre category one knife.



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Scott Hartman said:
Ya'll got my Group 2 beat.
I've never met an old knife I didn't like:D

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I'm going to venture to say that your knife is a group 3. Group 2 knife blade stamp letters were individually struck.

Group 3 knives are as follows for those that are unaware

Description: Knives are stamped on the right side of the blade with a single strike stamp. Handles will be of various colors of stacked lucite and often having one or more solid white spacers in the middle. There is usually a pin through the pommel. Circa 1946-1947

My explanation in saying this is because the BUCK stamp seems to fade off at the top of each letter consistently, as if when struck the stamp was at an angle. I cant tell from the picture if the pommel is pinned but that is neither here nor there, But the group 3 description fit your knife to the tee.
Group 3 knives were made in 1947 so the difference is minor.
 
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mbjannusch said:
Scott
I'm going to venture to say that your knife is a group 3. Group 2 knife blade stamp letters were individually struck.

Group 3 knives are as follows for those that are unaware

Description: Knives are stamped on the right side of the blade with a single strike stamp. Handles will be of various colors of stacked lucite and often having one or more solid white spacers in the middle. There is usually a pin through the pommel. Circa 1946-1947

My explanation in saying this is because the BUCK stamp seems to fade off at the top of each letter consistently, as if when struck the stamp was at an angle. I cant tell from the picture if the pommel is pinned but that is neither here nor there, But the group 3 description fit your knife to the tee.
Group 3 knives were made in 1947 so the difference is minor.
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LOL, you going to break the news to Chuck Buck that he's wrong? Mr. Buck provided my data, and a letter of authenticity.
 
Scott Hartman said:
LOL, you going to break the news to Chuck Buck that he's wrong? Mr. Buck provided my data, and a letter of authenticity.
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I'm going off of the only data sheet in existence made by Joe Houser. Maybe Chuck and Joe need to compare notes. I'm just stating facts on the data sheet. Nothing against Chuck but he makes mistakes just like everyone else. It doesn't take a machinist to determine that the stamp on your knife appears to be a single strike. I can only look at a picture. The knife is in your hands. Is there inconsistent spacing in the letters, or are any letters higher than any of the others. It looks to me that the stamp was at an angle, due to the way the top of the letters fade away from the K, getting gradually lighter forward the B. If non of the inconsistent patterns of striking individual letters are present, chances are it is a single strike stamp, making it a cat 3 knife. Either way making it made in 1947. It doesn't reduce the value or take anything away from the knife in the least bit. It's a beautiful knife and you should be proud to own it. I have no question of its authenticity, just which category it falls into. Really its splitting hairs.
 
What I would say is, there are about 10 people with really old , made in the shed, hand ground, airplane canopy lucite window handle knives. They would all like to have the oldest and if you could convine a group meeting with an expert evaluation panel, we might decide. I will be glad to act as chairman of the panel.

For now I hope they show us their old ones, but I will say, Joe Houser should be considered the holder of the oldest on principal of family connections, at least.

I gave up on the oldest folder, when I realized I could buy a really nice over and under shotgun for what one costs.

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Start with the Newsletter articles by Joe Houser: August 2000, November 2000 and May 2001, and then check Larry Oden's article December 2009.
 
There is a compact disk done for the BCCI at the Smoky Mountain Knife Works Knife Show a few years ago, Where Heath Stone does a presentation on Factory fixed blade knives, that is a great piece of information. There really should be a sticky at the top of the Buck page though.

I have a copy of the presentation that I think I can email, if anyone wants a copy. Send me a PM and I will try to get them out. I think it will send. I have had trouble in the past due to the size but I'm willing to try again...
 
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Matt,

If you put the reflection of Old Glory in your knife photo on purpose, I applaud your creativity. If it was just chance, quick go buy a lottery ticket.....

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Thank you for the quick response bertl I printed them out and have some reading to do. Matt I sent you a PM hopefully you are able to send out the presentation, Thank you.

Mike S.
 
fuzzybuck said:
Thank you for the quick response bertl I printed them out and have some reading to do. Matt I sent you a PM hopefully you are able to send out the presentation, Thank you.

Mike S.
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Check your email, I just sent it, let me know if it goes threw.

Craig that was intentional, thanks.
 
I'm guessing the flag is from an American flag iPhone cover?

Those old fixed blades look wonderful.
 
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