Who invented the "flipper"

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Who was the first maker to incoporate the "flipper" on a folder? I know that Kit Carson uses it, as well as Ken Onion. Darrell Ralph is also using it on some of his knives. Who was the first? They need some credit as a genius. Really excellent idea. Makes for an alternate method of opening and serves as a guard. I like it.
 
Kit learned it from Randall Gilbreath. I don't know where Randall got it from,(or if it was his own design) but maybe Kit can fill us in.
 
I first encountered and fell it love with Randall Gilbreath's flipper folders that I first saw in '96, but I know he learned it from someone else and my tired old brain does not recall whom. Perhaps someone else knows...

Para
 
I finally did a search for This Thread in which Les Robertson credits Mel Pardue with teaching the 'flipper' to Randy Gilbreath. Likely this idea goes back a whole lot farther than Mel, but I really don't know...

Para
 
But ya gotta ask yourself, who made it real popular, in today's folders?
IMHO, CRKT and I did...
I don't plug myself very often. I gave in to the "Dark Side" for this one:)
 
Nope, what I'm telling ya is that me and CRKT made it popular. It's hard to imitate Darth's voice here on BF.com.
 
gotta take a ****.

seriously,IMHO, kit and crkt made it what it is today. no offense towards the inventor,as its a great idea.

who invented it?
from what ive read on this thread, it was pardue.

who MADE it?
kit,both before,and after CRKT
 
I don't know who invented the flipper .But I agree Kit and CRKT did make it popular.
I changed it arround a little and also contributed to the popularity of the flipper.Maybe not as much as Kit but significantly(sp)
I usually don't like to blow my own horn either but couldn't help it.
I also don't think anyones done it like mine prior to me .(correct me if I'm wrong)
Either way they work well and I expect to see them become more and more popular.
 
Originally posted by KenOnion
Either way they work well and I expect to see them become more and more popular.

I also expect them to become more popular. It is a great idea. I would like to thank everyone who had anything to do withthe idea and making it popular.
 
I had an Emerson custom - a gents knife - from around 1988 that had a flipper. In conversation Ernie didn't say he invented it, but its been around at least since then.
 
Nothing against CRKT or any of the other factories. However, at this point their line of knives have become mostly "monkey see, monkey do". Outside the R&D that the custom knife makers do for them, they do little if anything on their own.

The only advantage they offer (and this is a big one), is factories produce millions of knives and put them into the hands of future custom knife buyers.

Another mis-conception is that there is any Maker, Dealer or Factory that makes a knife or an aspect of a knife popular.

Popularity always has and always will belong only to one segment of custom knives....They customer.

As for who originated the flipper, I don't think any one around today knows. I saw a flipper on a antique friction folder Circa 1875. I think that pre-dates most of the members here. I suspect that are some folders even older than that. I'll bet when they came out who ever came up with the original idea was given credit as the person who "popularized" it.

Like all good ideas, they get "re-invented".

Seventy Five years from now when some custom knife maker finds an old rusty folder at a flea market. Then takes it home, opens it and pulls out the Speed Safe and put it into one of his knives. There will be whole generation of custom knife buyers who talk about how cool this mechanism is.

It will be at that point that my Great Grandchild will annouce to those colletors that it was done before. To which someone will reply, "yes but XYZ knife maker made it popular"....and so it goes.
 
Les , hopefully in seventyfive years from now light sabres will be the standard . Although steel will probably alwayse be popular ,I could sure use a light sabre.
And now mater what you say Kit and I have made it popular again.Both in our own way.
 
Hi Ken,

You mistook my point. I was not saying that you and Kit did not do your part to re-popularize the flipper.

My point was, no matter what any of us come up with, if the consumer does not find it appealing, it will never be popular.

Speaking of Flippers (well not really) what about the Pig Killer???
 
The inventor would be 100 years ago. Many old dock knives had flippers.
It was used on knives in the 80's for a while. Then KIT CARSON made it popular again on his M16.

Mike Lamprey also had his own ideas about it that are very cool.
 
Originally posted by tom mayo
So what youre telling us is that you are really Darth Vader?? :confused:

Sorry, but I've been wanting to ask this for a while.

Tom -when are you going to add a flipper to a TnT?

Mike
 
Les, I'm waiting on you baby.I got a killer revision on that knife:cool:


I'm done talking flipper ...who cares
 
You know, I really don't care who invented it. I am just glad to see that it is being used on so many great knives.

The flipper makes it so easy to get a knife open that I find it a joy to use. All you makers that are putting flippers on your knives, keep it up. I love them.:D
 
Ya time to make knives and have fun.
Thanks Kit for the reinvention.

Flipers are cool.

Got several new ones on the drawing board!
 
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