Who makes better 8cr13

I've had 2 CRKT's that have held up as good as some of my knives with S30v and 154cm. Maybe I got lucky, but I still sometimes get surprised at how long they keep a good edge.
 
Nether one " make" 8 cr13 I don't even think crkt even makes knives. Who heat treats it better ? I would say Kershaw but IMO Benchmade is even better. However most of the knives using 8cr13 come from China so they might be all from the same factory.
 
Screwdriver said:
I really do not think it matters, just go for the design you like the best.
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^This, and also, what evidence do you have that the same factory in China isn't making the knives for both of those companies? I'm not saying that the knives are indeed made in the same Chinese factory, but I've not seen it demonstrated one way or the other...
 
In my experience, they're all about the same (Kershaw, Spyderco, and CRKT) when it comes to 8Cr13MoV. Most of my experience is with Kershaw (many different models), although I've had a few Spydercos with that steel (all from the Tenacious family of knives). I have a handful of CRKT's that use that steel as well. Any performance difference you see is most likely to be attributed to the blade geometry and factory sharpening angle than the steel itself.
 
Well, CRKT uses 8cr14mov, which is very similar but:
I noticed my M16 dulls just a little faster (I dunno, maybe by 15%?) than my 8cr13 knives, but it sharpens much easier-I've only used the fine rods of my Lansky box-and only 2-4 swipes a side-to get it receipt-paper slicing sharp. The rust resistance seems to be the same though.
As for the best 8cr13? I only have one Spydie (Tenacious) and multiple Kershaws so I could be biased, but I say Kershaw.
 
flarp said:
In my experience, they're all about the same (Kershaw, Spyderco, and CRKT) when it comes to 8Cr13MoV. Most of my experience is with Kershaw (many different models), although I've had a few Spydercos with that steel (all from the Tenacious family of knives). I have a handful of CRKT's that use that steel as well. Any performance difference you see is most likely to be attributed to the blade geometry and factory sharpening angle than the steel itself.
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^^this
 
I think Kershaw won some award for how good they treated theirs. Don't know if it matters that much
 
I'd give the edge (heh) to Kershaw. They spec their 8Cr13MoV at 58-60 hrc, whereas CRKT goes at 58-59. Only a point or so of difference, but my Kershaws seem to hold up for typical EDC use better than any of my other 8Cr13MoV blades. However, I've never used an 8Cr13MoV CRKT, only the 8Cr14MoV models, though they're similar enough. One caveat - I have had some issues with slight edge chipping if I try to make it do any sort of chopping or the like, again, probably due to the slightly higher hardness.

Of course, it's still going to be a very small difference compared to different designs, edge geometry, etcetera.
 
#1 Spyderco #2 Kershaw...#whatever is last Schrade #whatever comes after Schrade Gerber

I put Spyderco at #1 because their 8Cr seems to get a bit sharper than Kershaw 8Cr when using the SharpMaker. The thing about Schrade is because I once bought that 3.5" fixed blade they sell at Academy and it was so dull and poor sharpening that I had a hard time believing it was actually 8Cr.
 
I don't think any of them manufacture steel per say. They source it out and then make knives or have knives made from what they buy from there source. I only have experience with 9Cr18MoV and it is a very very fine steel. I do own a folder in the 9Cr, a COAST FX352 and it really is a very decent blade steel. keepem sharp
 
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