Why are there no "super SAK's?"

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I'm a relative new guy to the whole culture of the ultra high end, D2 knives and all. That being said, I'm surprised that it seems like there is no real producer of ultra-high end SAKs with micarta handles and D2 using the best heat treat imaginable.

Is there a reason for this?
 
There are a couple of people offering customized SAKs.

But there are only two real producers of genuine SAKs. Both are optimized to making large quantities of consistently high quality units. If the market would support an ultra high end SAK, they might produce one. But for them, that would require a run of tens, or even hundreds of thousands of units to be profitable. There just isn't much market for small run, very expensive SAKs to justify their existence.
 
I have about a half dozen knives in D2. I also have about a half dozen SAKs. In the field, I prefer the MUCH easier to sharpen SAKs. Actually, in the field or not, I prefer the SAK. The thin blade cuts efficiently, and it holds an edge just fine. Easy to sharped. Easy to touch up. I wouldn't want a D2 SAK. As they are, they're pretty close to perfect.
 
Despite not being a super steel, the steel used by both Vic and Wenger has an excellent reputation for both durability and corrosion resistance. The other nice thing about SAKs is that they are very affordable- something that would be eliminated if you introduce fancy steel and scale material.
 
does anyone know what steel is typically used in SAKs? I've read it's similar to 12C27, but generally with lower hardness and greater wear resistance.
 
Well since no one else has mentioned him, I guess I will. Swissbianco does some amazing SAK runs (he has some kind of connection to the owner of Vic and Wenger which lets him do things others can't). He is doing a Plain Edge Stay Glow One Hand Trekker (with corkscrew instead of Phillip's Screwdriver) run at the moment (or was anyways), he is working on a Damascus SAK and just finished a run of Splashed Alox knives (multi-coloured). His website is http://www.swissbianco.com/
 
thanks for mention me, im only an poor swiss with some ideas.

victorinox and swissbianco work in collaboration on some projects, one is the damascus sak but that all needs time. more infos are in my swissbianco forums.

im aware what the market wants and needs and try to fix that, im working on my own line of sak as im swiss and sure the steel will be verry upgraded on some models.

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http://www.inmentis.com/SwissBianco/
 
well, remember my motherlanguise is swissgerman...english is my 4. languise i learned, after french and an little italian.

the situation regarding the damascus blade collaboration is that the first 22 pcs protos are finished prior christmas. theyr not for sale so fare, i havent one for myself jet. but we work on the first run, no idea when that 500-1000 pcs are avaliable but what i now is that i will post in my forum/newsletter first.

good thing need time...as we say in swiss, to cover that we are slow ;-) quality is anything for me.

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bianco new swiss knives
 
if I had a fourth language, I doubt it would be as good as yours :) I just emailed to subscribe to the newsletter, thanks.
 
I'm a relative new guy to the whole culture of the ultra high end, D2 knives and all. That being said, I'm surprised that it seems like there is no real producer of ultra-high end SAKs with micarta handles and D2 using the best heat treat imaginable.

Is there a reason for this?

Wenger makes a Swiss army knife with ruthenium handles.
http://www.wengerna.com/browse/product.jsp?prod_id=742&cat_id=60&cat_name=Factory%20Outlet&sub_cat_id=74

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as the damascus blade soldier comes out i want make an handful of them with damascus handles as well, if theres enough money.

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I have a wenger with realtree scales and black oxide coating on all the implements, easily one of my faves. For some reason it seems sharper and holds an edge longer, making me think it was a carbon steel model for a while.
 
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