..if you can shoot a revolver this fast?
http://www.jesseshunting.com/photopost/data/539/992fastshooter.wmv
Incredible.
http://www.jesseshunting.com/photopost/data/539/992fastshooter.wmv
Incredible.
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Why buy a semi-auto pistol..
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Why shoot an auto?
Well, life would be dull if you did not have to worry about too much oil on the slide rails, not enough oil on the slide rails, failures to feed, failures to eject, malfunctions due to a problem with a defective magazine, practicing the tap-rack-bang drill for all of the above.
I guess I'll stick with my revolvers!
Well, life would be dull if you did not have to worry about too much oil on the slide rails, not enough oil on the slide rails, failures to feed, failures to eject, malfunctions due to a problem with a defective magazine, practicing the tap-rack-bang drill for all of the above.
I guess I'll stick with my revolvers!
I wanted to add something witty about reloading speed of magazine-fed pistols but ... was that reload fast or what ? Aside from the fact that revolver drum can only accomodate single stack equivalent of rounds, with that kind of speed there hardly seems a reason for that 
Wow.
Wow.i don't get it, this is not a 'regular old-school' revolver, is it? i mean, it seems it is some kind of customized "automatic revolver" 
? is he actually pulling the trigger 6 times in a second, it seemed to me he constantly held the trigger pulled, like a machine-gun...
the reload was impressive though, but it was a speedloader, right?
conclusion, i know nothing 'bout guns, but i liked the video, but in my opinion this was an automatic revolver, no wild west classic revolver.
anyone can explain the vid to me and teach me some stuff 'bout guns?
? is he actually pulling the trigger 6 times in a second, it seemed to me he constantly held the trigger pulled, like a machine-gun...the reload was impressive though, but it was a speedloader, right?
conclusion, i know nothing 'bout guns, but i liked the video, but in my opinion this was an automatic revolver, no wild west classic revolver.
anyone can explain the vid to me and teach me some stuff 'bout guns?
dennis75 said:i don't get it, this is not a 'regular old-school' revolver, is it? i mean, it seems it is some kind of customized "automatic revolver"
the reload was impressive though, but it was a speedloader, right?
conclusion, i know nothing 'bout guns, but i liked the video, but in my opinion this was an automatic revolver, no wild west classic revolver.
anyone can explain the vid to me and teach me some stuff 'bout guns?
Well, its not an "old school" single action revolver, but it a S&W double action revolver. Its not an "automatic" revolver. I think its Jerry Miculek, who is a mulitple time world champ with handguns. It was a speedloader of some kind, but still incredibly impressive.
Can't see the vid here at work... but if you've ever seen an old Army Colt single action in the hands of someone who knows how...
One of the tricks used to be fanning... but not like you see it in the movies - After the draw (during which the hammer is cocked) and first trigger pull, the off hand draws across the hammer with each individual finger, in turn, drawing the hammer back... Big problem with "movie-style" fanning is the actual imparted movement to the gun by "hitting" the hammer with the fanning hand which usually means the palm or heel ... in the method where only the fingers draw back across the hammer, the gun is held in a much more solid position, reducing the scattering effect of fanning..
But I'll still stick with my finicky semi-autos... especially after having a .38 special cartridge slide back in my .357 chamber and freeze up the cylinder once too many times!!!
One of the tricks used to be fanning... but not like you see it in the movies - After the draw (during which the hammer is cocked) and first trigger pull, the off hand draws across the hammer with each individual finger, in turn, drawing the hammer back... Big problem with "movie-style" fanning is the actual imparted movement to the gun by "hitting" the hammer with the fanning hand which usually means the palm or heel ... in the method where only the fingers draw back across the hammer, the gun is held in a much more solid position, reducing the scattering effect of fanning..
But I'll still stick with my finicky semi-autos... especially after having a .38 special cartridge slide back in my .357 chamber and freeze up the cylinder once too many times!!!
If you want to know more try running a search on "Jerry Miculek"
He used to do some awesome demonstrations for Smith & Wesson. The revolvers he used were pretty stock - certainly no trickery involved there, and the trigger had to be pulled for each shot. Incredible..................
His favoured gun was the S&W 625. It's a .45 ACP revolver and the rounds are held in "moon clips" - that is 6 rounds clipped together. For a reload a new clip can just be dropped in the cylinder faster than any speedloader.
Jerry was booked to do a demonstration at Bisley in England some years ago during a competition weekend I attended, but unfortunately had to call it off due to illness. I've always regretted not seeing him perform.
And now you've got me all depressed over the pistol ban in this country.........
I'm off to the pub...................
Phil
He used to do some awesome demonstrations for Smith & Wesson. The revolvers he used were pretty stock - certainly no trickery involved there, and the trigger had to be pulled for each shot. Incredible..................
His favoured gun was the S&W 625. It's a .45 ACP revolver and the rounds are held in "moon clips" - that is 6 rounds clipped together. For a reload a new clip can just be dropped in the cylinder faster than any speedloader.
Jerry was booked to do a demonstration at Bisley in England some years ago during a competition weekend I attended, but unfortunately had to call it off due to illness. I've always regretted not seeing him perform.
And now you've got me all depressed over the pistol ban in this country.........
I'm off to the pub...................
Phil
ckc said:8 rounds.. sounds like a 22 cal revolver to me.. I'd rather have 19 rounds of 9mm in a nice glock..
he's a good trick shooter, I'll give him that, but in a practical situation. you are going to need a bigger gun then that..
Thats not a .22. Its probably a S&W .357 using .38 ammo or it might be a .38 super, using full moon clips. As someone else said, it could also be a .45 acp with full moon clips because he did use that. I'm thinking its a .38, though, since it was a speed demo.
That guy is pretty impressive. I've seen a couple of other videos with him in it and read some info and an interview with him. The article that I read talked about him getting shots off in about .12 seconds each. That's pretty impressive. The article also talked about an automatic pistol taking .17 to .18 seconds for the action to cycle per shot. You do the math 
you just can't shoot an auto that fast.
He's shooting a .38 of some kind. I've never seen a .357 with an 8 shot cylinder on it. Too much pressure for available steel. They're also pretty low power rounds. That said... I don't want to be standing down range of that
I took a class one time where one of the things they had us do was empty a magazine into the target at close range with full power rounds and timed us using a timer like they used in that video. The idea was if you ever end up in court for a shooting you can use the info in your defense when you shoot them 6 times. Anyway, without too much shooting experience at the time it turned into 9 shots in 1.7 seconds. You'd be suprised how fast your can make your finger twitch, I know I was.
you just can't shoot an auto that fast.He's shooting a .38 of some kind. I've never seen a .357 with an 8 shot cylinder on it. Too much pressure for available steel. They're also pretty low power rounds. That said... I don't want to be standing down range of that
I took a class one time where one of the things they had us do was empty a magazine into the target at close range with full power rounds and timed us using a timer like they used in that video. The idea was if you ever end up in court for a shooting you can use the info in your defense when you shoot them 6 times. Anyway, without too much shooting experience at the time it turned into 9 shots in 1.7 seconds. You'd be suprised how fast your can make your finger twitch, I know I was.
S&W Model 627-5
Maker: www.smith-wesson.com
Action Type: Traditional swing-out-cylinder double-action large-frame revolver with frame-mounted firing pin
Caliber: .357 Magnum/.38 Spl.
Barrel Length: 5 inches
Frame: N-frame, stainless steel
Overall Length: 9 1/2 inches
Weight: Empty, 44 ounces
Hammer: 1/2-inch wide, polished and chromed
Capacity: 8 rounds
Sights: Interchangeable front sight, Patridge front sight, with McGivern gold bead, fully adjustable rear sight
Trigger: .312-inch wide target trigger, chromed
Grips: Hogue rubber
Safeties: Frame-mounted firing-mechanism lock
Other Features: Chamfered charge holes on cylinder, ball-detend lockup, adjustable trigger stop, tapered and contoured barrel, Performance Center locking aluminum guncase.
Don't know what Miculek actually used, but I remembered reading about this 8 shooter.
Maker: www.smith-wesson.com
Action Type: Traditional swing-out-cylinder double-action large-frame revolver with frame-mounted firing pin
Caliber: .357 Magnum/.38 Spl.
Barrel Length: 5 inches
Frame: N-frame, stainless steel
Overall Length: 9 1/2 inches
Weight: Empty, 44 ounces
Hammer: 1/2-inch wide, polished and chromed
Capacity: 8 rounds
Sights: Interchangeable front sight, Patridge front sight, with McGivern gold bead, fully adjustable rear sight
Trigger: .312-inch wide target trigger, chromed
Grips: Hogue rubber
Safeties: Frame-mounted firing-mechanism lock
Other Features: Chamfered charge holes on cylinder, ball-detend lockup, adjustable trigger stop, tapered and contoured barrel, Performance Center locking aluminum guncase.
Don't know what Miculek actually used, but I remembered reading about this 8 shooter.
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ld57 said:
I have been up to Clarks Guns (Miculek married Jim Clark's daughter) and was told that the main things about the revolvers are extra heavy trigger rebound springs to the trigger will come back forward fast enough.
There is a ton of information about Miculeks amazing shooting online if you look for it. From Guns Magazine "Eight shots (and eight hits) in one second flat with .38 Special rounds out of a 627 ... and his sub-three-second 12 shot revolver string."
Here is an Article from American Handgunner.
You might also want to look up Ed McGivern. He did a lot of amazing speed shooting with double action revolvers in the 30s and 40s.
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jackknife said:
He-he.
Me too.Looks like I need more practise though.
Sort of OT... but you guys are now bringing up the names of the greats...
Which reminds me of a great series of books (each independent, but apparently following both the career of the son and of the father) written by Stephen Hunter...
In "Pale Horse Coming," the 'star' knows all these famous pistoleros and what they can do, and he ends up using them as his "team" in crime busting... A most amazing book and the references to the old speed shooters is fairly true to what I know of them... Great read!
Which reminds me of a great series of books (each independent, but apparently following both the career of the son and of the father) written by Stephen Hunter...
In "Pale Horse Coming," the 'star' knows all these famous pistoleros and what they can do, and he ends up using them as his "team" in crime busting... A most amazing book and the references to the old speed shooters is fairly true to what I know of them... Great read!