Why do we complain here about what other think about knives and collectors?

jimh0220

jimh0220

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Of all places, why is the the place people whine and moan about what other people think about knives, carrynig then, and collecting them? Is that not preaching to the choir? I mean, we all get it. Others that don't, in my opinion, DON'T frequent this forum. SO why not expel our energy fighting that fight where it might change the minds of themisinformed?
 
This conversation has been going on ever since I've been here. The prevailing view around here is that those folks who don't use their knives got no reason to live. I don't see anything that would lead me to believe that that POV is likely to change anytime soon.
 
Not sure really...

There are Collectors..

There are Users....

There are just general knife nuts....

Don't think it's a problem with those who don't use their knives persay, it's that some try and make others believe they do and or know more about knives in general than they really do that creates issues.

Or reviewing a knife they never used to cut anything with telling people how well it performs... That can and will cause problems.

Sitting in a chair flipping a knife open hundreds of times while watching TV doesn't make one an expert on all things knives like some seem to think it does.

If one is a Collector and doesn't use their knives then they should just say so instead of trying to make others believe otherwise.

That should be pretty simple I think. :)
 
Unless, of course, a collector of knives uses the experiences of users to form an opinion about the way a knife performs and then restates that opinion . . . hopefully with references.
 
bld522 said:
Unless, of course, a collector of knives uses the experiences of users to form an opinion about the way a knife performs and then restates that opinion . . . hopefully with references.
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Yeah that would be another idea, but then that doesn't happen for the most part......

What we tend to see is a NIB knife with the factory edge with zero user marks on the blade and one talking about how awesome it performs and then comparing it to other knives on top of that.
 
Ankerson said:
Not sure really...

There are Collectors..

There are Users....

There are just general knife nuts....

Don't think it's a problem with those who don't use their knives persay, it's that some try and make others believe they do and or know more about knives in general than they really do that creates issues.

Or reviewing a knife they never used to cut anything with telling people how well it performs... That can and will cause problems.

Sitting in a chair flipping a knife open hundreds of times while watching TV doesn't make one an expert on all things knives like some seem to think it does.

If one is a Collector and doesn't use their knives then they should just say so instead of trying to make others believe otherwise.

That should be pretty simple I think. :)
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Then there's those who have maybe 5 or 6 knives and are already self proclaimed experts...
 
singularity35 said:
Then there's those who have maybe 5 or 6 knives and are already self proclaimed experts...
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Wasn't going to go into that deep. :D

I could..... But I won't...

Nothing wrong with collectors at all, a lot of us are collectors AND Users so we have safe queens along with user blades.
 
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Ankerson said:
Yeah that would be another idea, but then that doesn't happen for the most part......
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Yes. You're probably right. Still, one can become quite expert on various aspects of knives without ever actually using them. And the expertise he or she gains can be worth sharing with others. Knowledge doesn't necessarily have to be first-hand to have value.
 
bld522 said:
Yes. You're probably right. Still, one can become quite expert on various aspects of knives without ever actually using them. And the expertise they gain can be worth sharing with others. Knowledge doesn't necessarily have to be first-hand to have value.
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That really depends on the original source of the information and if that is correct in the 1st place though and how it's presented.
 
Ankerson said:
That really depends on the original source of the information and if that is correct in the 1st place though and how it's presented.
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Presentation is a big factor, IMHO. To take hearsay and present it as your own experience is just....doucheish...
 
singularity35 said:
Presentation is a big factor, IMHO. To take hearsay and present it as your own experience is just....doucheish...
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That is the main reason why I started testing knives a very long time ago....

Most of what I heard was found to be BS for the most part.
 
singularity35 said:
Presentation is a big factor, IMHO. To take hearsay and present it as your own experience is just....doucheish...
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Yes. I agree with that. Either you have first-hand knowledge or you should reference where you got your information from.
 
bld522 said:
Yes. I agree with that. Either you have first-hand knowledge or you should reference where you got your information from.
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That takes effort though...... LOL

Easier to just parrot a bunch of BS, hearsay or Urban Legends.

That said most of the negative things we tend to see is BS that has been parroted many times over and it was wrong from the beginning and or based on opinions or Bias.

There are really no experts as we all are students in the end. :)
 
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I know what you're talking about. It's hard not to become jaded, but some people actually try to be careful about where they get their information from and how much store to put in it.
 
First hand information will always trump second hand information. And by the time you get third hand information, said knife/steel has taken on a supernatural aura, and it is then up to Ankerson to dispel such myth!!
 
Depends on where the first hand vs second hand information comes from. But I agree that myth dispellers are always good to have around.
 
I have a few knives that I use frequently. I have a lot more that are just for collecting, because that makes me happy.
 
jimh0220 said:
Of all places, why is the the place people whine and moan about what other people think about knives, carrynig then, and collecting them?
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Because many people want to feel superior, and putting others down makes them feel that way.
 
Are there any schools that have a doctorate program in Knifeology? One doesn't have to know how the steal was made, how the blade was heat treated, or what clever name the final product was given to know quality. I'm a user, but I can still tell if a knife is worth a hoot just by holding it and pulling the blade open. To each his own. I'm just glad their are so many others that enjoy my hobby.
 
NeoClassic said:
Because many people want to feel superior, and putting others down makes them feel that way.
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I don't think that's the majority of what's going on. Most of us are here to get good info and most of us are anal about precision. In connection with that, we dislike perpetuated myths, false and incorrect information, and unclear thinking.
 
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