Why doesn't Spyderco show the dealer exclusive knives in the catalog?

[jhyde7585]

I was wondering why not? Ex. the Bento M4 Manix, KW M390/CF Millie, etc....
Why only the ones from Spyderco themselves?
Anyone know?

 

[Popsickle]

because they aren't a part of the Spyderco normal production. They allow the distributers to advertise them

 

[RetiredGuns]

Besides allowing the distributor a chance to showcase a beauty I would think these are ongoing projects that aren't always foreseen in time to make the catalog?

 

[PropThePolecat]

IMO dealers shouldnt get free advertisement in a manufacturers catalog.

 

[bobgill]

Plus, if the special run knives were in the catalog, then everyone would be trying to order them from the factory.

 

[yablanowitz]

Why would they have a special order listed in the catalog?

 

[kreole]

Why would they have a special order listed in the catalog?

IMO dealers shouldnt get free advertisement in a manufacturers catalog.

Why not? Obviously Spyderco wants the best for their dealers because what's good for the dealers is good for Spyderco. They aren't competitors, after all.

Putting sprints in means more people will know about it => dealers will buy larger amounts for each sprint and have them more often => Spyderco makes more profit.

It seems like both sides would benefit. It's free advertising for dealers which in turn means more profit for Spyderco.

 

[The Deacon]

While I can see pros and cons to both listing them and not listing them, I don't see why Spyderco should have to explain every business decision they make to satisfy someone's curiosity. This one is nothing new. It has been Spyderco's policy for many years. Even exclusives for Ironstone, which was their own retail outlet in the late 90's, never appeared in a catalog.

 

[Fanglekai]

I imagine it's because they don't want to give particular dealers special treatment. That or they already expect to sell out their sprint runs so they don't need to advertise.

 

[jhyde7585]

I imagine it's because they don't want to give particular dealers special treatment. That or they already expect to sell out their sprint runs so they don't need to advertise.

Isin't a dealer EXCLUSIVE already giving special treatment?

While I can see pros and cons to both listing them and not listing them, I don't see why Spyderco should have to explain every business decision they make to satisfy someone's curiosity. This one is nothing new. It has been Spyderco's policy for many years. Even exclusives for Ironstone, which was their own retail outlet in the late 90's, never appeared in a catalog.

No hard feelings, just a little curious, I don't want this to become another S35VN thread.....

Why not? Obviously Spyderco wants the best for their dealers because what's good for the dealers is good for Spyderco. They aren't competitors, after all.

Putting sprints in means more people will know about it => dealers will buy larger amounts for each sprint and have them more often => Spyderco makes more profit.

It seems like both sides would benefit. It's free advertising for dealers which in turn means more profit for Spyderco.

Thats what I was thinking...

Why would they have a special order listed in the catalog?

Because its one of their products, just like the other sprints they produce that aren't dealer exclusives.

IMO dealers shouldnt get free advertisement in a manufacturers catalog.

I guess so, but its still a Spyderco product, I mean its really the same process as shipping them to any other dealer after production. If theyre doing a dealer exclusive to begin with, its already advertising. Why not let everyone know? Those who aren't getting the most up to date news from sites such as this never find out about the exclusive sprints.

 

[RevDevil]

because they aren't a part of the Spyderco normal production. They allow the distributers to advertise them

IMO dealers shouldnt get free advertisement in a manufacturers catalog.

This sums it up nicely I think. No frills, nothingspecial, just plain old common sense, I like it
Last I checked, Spyderco is in the knife making and designing business...not in the free advertisements for dealers business.

 

[jhyde7585]

This sums it up nicely I think. No frills, nothingspecial, just plain old common sense, I like it
Last I checked, Spyderco is in the knife making and designing business...not in the free advertisements for dealers business.

Don't worry, I get the fact that they might not want to put the dealers in the catalog for free ads, but in my mind it makes sense to promote every product you make, thats all Just curious if Spyderco had any specific reason other than this to not put them in

 

[yablanowitz]

I was wondering why not? Ex. the Bento M4 Manix, KW M390/CF Millie, etc....
Why only the ones from Spyderco themselves?
Anyone know?

Isin't a dealer EXCLUSIVE already giving special treatment?
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No hard feelings, just a little curious, I don't want this to become another S35VN thread.....


Thats what I was thinking...


Because its one of their products, just like the other sprints they produce that aren't dealer exclusives.



I guess so, but its still a Spyderco product, I mean its really the same process as shipping them to any other dealer after production. If theyre doing a dealer exclusive to begin with, its already advertising. Why not let everyone know? Those who aren't getting the most up to date news from sites such as this never find out about the exclusive sprints.

By your logic, Queen should list the 2009 BFC Forum Barlow, and 2010 BFC Forum Moose in their catalog, even though the only way to get one was by being in on the group when we ordered them. That makes no sense at all.

 

[jhyde7585]

By your logic, Queen should list the 2009 BFC Forum Barlow, and 2010 BFC Forum Moose in their catalog, even though the only way to get one was by being in on the group when we ordered them. That makes no sense at all.

Guess we just have different opinions then

 

[JNewell]

Totally apples and oranges. The sprints are in the catalog because they are available from Spyderco and all of its dealers. The dealer exclusives are available only from the specific dealer (or, in the case of a distributor exclusive, the distributor's dealers). It's up to the dealer or distributor to promote those knives, and they know that when they order them.

Why not? Obviously Spyderco wants the best for their dealers because what's good for the dealers is good for Spyderco. They aren't competitors, after all.

Putting sprints in means more people will know about it => dealers will buy larger amounts for each sprint and have them more often => Spyderco makes more profit.

It seems like both sides would benefit. It's free advertising for dealers which in turn means more profit for Spyderco.

 

[JNewell]

Dealer exclusive orders can happen at any time and are often changed after announcement right up until production actually starts. That's two good reasons not to put them in the paper catalog. Maybe they could post them on the Spyderco web catalog, but if dealers really needed that, they would be asking Spyderco, and Spyderco would probably be doing it.

Don't worry, I get the fact that they might not want to put the dealers in the catalog for free ads, but in my mind it makes sense to promote every product you make, thats all Just curious if Spyderco had any specific reason other than this to not put them in

 

[powernoodle]

When it comes to special dealer runs and marketing, Spyderco can do whatever it wants. Which is what it is doing. Thats why we see what we see in the catalog, and we don't see what we don't see. I don't think its any more complicated than that. :thumbup:

 

[jhyde7585]

Dealer exclusive orders can happen at any time and are often changed after announcement right up until production actually starts. That's two good reasons not to put them in the paper catalog. Maybe they could post them on the Spyderco web catalog, but if dealers really needed that, they would be asking Spyderco, and Spyderco would probably be doing it.

Fair enough.

When it comes to special dealer runs and marketing, Spyderco can do whatever it wants. Which is what it is doing. Thats why we see what we see in the catalog, and we don't see what we don't see. I don't think its any more complicated than that. :thumbup:

Im satisfied with the answers I got, i guess it really just boils down to a "just because" type thing, after everything else is considered (timelines, advertisement, need to sell, blah blah blah)

By the way, this was asked out of simple curiosity, im not hating on anything that Spyderco does :thumbup: